# Global Warming: The Greatest Hoax in the History of Science

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by madanthonywayne, Feb 6, 2007.

1. ### madanthonywayneMorning in AmericaRegistered Senior Member

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The evidence is mounting, and more and more scientists are summoning up the courage to come forward and commit the unthinkable heracy. Denying the validity of anthropogenic global warming.

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3. ### redarmy11Registered Senior Member

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I predict another stalemate for this thread regarding the extent of human culpability - and that all the in-fighting won't save a single drowned polar bear. But good luck everyone.

5. ### Mosheh ThezionRegistered Senior Member

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global warming.... should cause an ice age..

which would cause the equator... to blossom.

the equator... is full of arab nations... in the desert.

like saudi arabia...

it was grassland during the last ice age.

and opec... is the one burning down the rain forests... eh.

ITS NOT BEING DONE AS A MISTAKE.

-MT

7. ### FacialValued Senior Member

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No hard evidence. Just an editorial.

The facts against global warming just don't exist.

8. ### madanthonywayneMorning in AmericaRegistered Senior Member

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You're right about that article. I just loved the quote about global warming being the greatest hoax in history. But evidence is mounting that climate is driven not by CO2 levels, but by solar activity. Here's some evidence.

Even more convincing is this graph:
http://www.space.com/images/suncycle_temps_0108_02.gif
You notice that the graph of solar activity and temperature are almost exactly the same.

Here's a bunch more:

Are observed changes in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere really dangerous?.
C. R. de Freitas (2002)
Bulletin of Canadian Petroleum Geology 50, 297-327
http://bcpg.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/50/2/297
Climate change: Conflict of observational science, theory, and politics: Reply.
L. C. Gerhard (2006)
AAPG Bulletin 90, 409-412
http://aapgbull.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/full/90/3/409

The Sun's Role in Climate Variations.
D. Rind (2002)
Science 296, 673-677
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/296/5568/673

Causes of Climate Change Over the Past 1000 Years.
T. J. Crowley (2000)
Science 289, 270-277
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/289/5477/270

Climatic change in Chile at around 2700 BP and global evidence for solar forcing: a hypothesis.
B. van Geel, C. J. Heusser, H. Renssen, and C. J.E. Schuurmans (2000)
The Holocene 10, 659-664
http://hol.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/10/5/659

Palaeoenvironmental evidence for solar forcing of Holocene climate: linkages to solar science.
F. M. Chambers, M. I. Ogle, and J. J. Blackford (1999)
Progress in Physical Geography 23, 181-204
http://ppg.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/23/2/181
Geophysical, archaeological, and historical evidence support a solar-output model for climate change.
C. A. Perry and K. J. Hsu (2000)
PNAS 97, 12433-12438
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/23/12433

9. ### IceAgeCivilizationsBannedBanned

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I heard that bovine farts put out more "greenhouse gasses" than all industry.

10. ### smile_on_a_rainydayRegistered Senior Member

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how is it a hoax????

sure, global warming is a natural process but its the Enhanced Global Effect thats the problems....global temperature is increasing (according to all the ice cores taken etc)...even if only by a little.

if you think the temperature only has to decrease by 2 degrees to throw us into an ice age, increasing it by 2 degrees will also have massive effects

apparently by 2100 the sea level would have rised from anywhere between 13cm-98cm dependin how optimistic you are!!!.....which is kinda a masssssssssssive difference.....but you get the idea!!!

lets shove the guy who said it doesnt exist somewhere like Bangladesh...and then when it floods he can say if he's changed his mind or not! hahahaha!

mel xxx

11. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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That's still indirectly man-made. There would not be all those cows if we didn't raise them (and burn down forests to create fields to feed them).

12. ### zenbabelfishautonomous hyperreal sophistRegistered Senior Member

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'Easter Island-ism' or 'Dodo-ism' ?

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huh?

14. ### URIIMURegistered Senior Member

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Yes Global warming is a hoax, designed to lay blame on everyone... instead of where it really should be laid...upon the Big Oil corporations.

Al Gore, Bush etc are all oil men and money talks and rules, OK?

LOL but the bubble is about to burst and we the people must take matters into our own hands.

Rise up lads, if you aren't impotent

15. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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If Al Gore is aligned to big oil, why would be spread the global warming message?
Big oil couldn't sell their products if no one bought.
But you are right, the peak has passed, the long emergency has begun.

16. ### Baron MaxRegistered Senior Member

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Didn't I see an news article that said he gets some $250,000 per appearance? Ain't that a lot of incentive? What would you say/claim/spread if someone paid you$250,000 each time you said it? I mean, probably in your case, you could take that money and give it to the poor and homeless and uninsured, right?

Baron Max

17. ### Baron MaxRegistered Senior Member

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I certainly don't see how you could call it an "emergency", do you? I mean, ....seriously??

Baron Max

18. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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Yes, it will be a Long Emergency. Our economy has been based on cheap fuel for more than 50 years. Our adjustment will be harsh.

I think Big Oil would be happy to pay Al Gore even more than that to NOT appear.

19. ### Baron MaxRegistered Senior Member

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Oh, c'mon, Spider, you know as well as anyone that big oil companies have no fear of Al Gore or global warming alarmists. We'll be using oil and coal for 50 more years and you know it!

Why the alarmist bullshit when we all know that we just can't stop on a dime? Even the most avid scientist say that even if we stop everything right now, it'll be at least a century for any changes to be noticed.

Emergency? No, I don't think so. Slow weaning, perhaps, but emergency???

Baron Max

20. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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That's why it's the long emergency. We should be preparing, but we are only investing further in defending the oil rich regions. Soon, it will no longer be cost effective to use oil as we have, and that changes everything. It may still be around.

It's up to you to decide if Al Gore is sincere. I think he has plenty of money already.

21. ### URIIMURegistered Senior Member

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>> If Al Gore is aligned to big oil, why would be spread the global warming message?

Oh I C, Maybe Gore is a ture believer, but I wonder.....

I found this
>> In 1988, NASA’s top climate scientist, James Hansen, testified before Congress that he was “99 percent sure” that human-induced global warming was underway. His words made the front page of the Times and marked the entrance of global warming into mainstream public discussion. The following year, Al Gore called Hansen to testify again; this time, the first Bush Administration forced him to alter his prepared statement. A furious Gore called the incident “science fraud” perpetrated by the “Science Politburo of the Bush Administration.” >>

But Global Warming is a myth... Global drying is occurring at an ever increasing pace. (The apparent warming is just a lack/thinning of cloud cover)

Now it Global Warming is pushed as per Al Gore, then we are all to blame....
but it is myth anyway, so carbon trading is a money making proposition....
Its called smoke and mirrors and it diverts attention away from Big Oil, and we the public are all sad we never did the right thing in the past.... LOL

Now if anyone believed that it was a micro layer of petroleum oil, then Big Oil is to solely to blame and it would break them. I am sure they are desperately trying to find alernatives to get their paws into, but they are buying time.

The sky was once filled with cloud, sometimes the cloud was so thick the sky was black.

Now day after day clear skies dominate.

You can feel the temperature difference between a clear sky day and a cloudy day.

On a clear sky day you can feel the sunshine burning your skin, making you feel uncomfortable and driving you into shade. And yet the air temperature in the shade seems so cold and uninviting.

In the past on a cloudy day the occasional break in the clouds allowed sunshine to fall on your skin, but then it was so comfortable and comforting. You could sun-bake and feel good.

At night clear skies allow atmospheric heat to rapidly escape to space, so the nights become a deep freeze.

In the day clear skies bake the ground along with all life forms.

So the days become hot and the nights freezing.

Man what have you done?

!!!!!!!!Shut up IRU, you will be nobbled.

22. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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2500 scientists and at least 500 separate scientific studies disagree with you - as recently cited in a comprehensive UN report on the question.

23. ### ScottManaRegistered Senior Member

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It dose not mater if it is a haox. We know full well that we can destroy the very planet we stand on. Over 50% of the worlds forest have been cut down with very large portions expected to die off from changes in the climate. I have known for ages that we are coming out of a cooler time and it is getting wormer. So far the "Global Warming" campian has been used to do alot to slow our damaging habits and get all to figure out how to live with the rest of the world.

We learned to make armies of cars, we learned to make huge buildings, and massive indestry. That is all very cool. But it is time we learned how to do all these things without killing off our planet while we are at it.

It may be fun to say "Global Warming is a haox" but it has gotten thru better then other things that are realy killing us and get droped. And finding out that the planet is getting warmer on its own does not mean we are not helping it. We could very well be snowballing the effect.

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