Global Climate Strike

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Beer w/Straw, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/global-climate-strike-2019/index.html

    So, it's before dawn on the U.S. where Trump is in clear denial of Global Warming. Will any protestors have an impact, on say, the 2020 election, or will they just be regarded as social justice warriors and swept under the rug?

    I've talked with people who disregard NASA's and other's data about clear signs. Things like this:

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    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
    Saying they were bogus and that they only wanted money by promoting climate change.

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    What do you think will happen?
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    what i think will not change what will happen
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    if we are not the change
    we are that which becomes extinct
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    us or them
    democrat or republican
    what % of people trust their government ? 10% ?
    that means 90% are voting for someone they dont trust
    or for a system they do not trust

    i am not going to give any advice that gives advantage because giving something worth money away for free makes it worthless

    not only does giving it away for free make it worthless, but it also is perceived by a majority to be a declaration of lack of self worth for not charging a lot of money for it.

    this is called capitalism
    basic capitalist funder-mental principals

    only true public servants care about the people
    when capitalists want to be the dictator to get all the power and money, they do not and never did care about the people.
    giving them anything for free is asking to be mocked by them

    the fallacy is they have the best money can buy
    if that is true then there is nothing i can give for free that is worth more importance than that which is already being paid a lot of money for
    simple logic
    simple logic of the capitalist system

    how is climate change any different ?
    it is suggesting there is some type of special information that is soo valuable that it is unable to have a price put on it
    this defys capitalist principal

    such information is worthless because it is perceived as being against the very core principal of capitalism

    The capitalist is only interested in getting more money
    not spending money on something that does not make them even larger amounts of money

    soo.. the debate is somewhat ill conceived to the point to suggest anyone has information that can make the capitalist more money.
    and ... not only that the simple fact of offering it for free instantly makes it worthless.

    please feel free to point out any logic i have got wrong
     
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  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I did mention the U.S. specifically because Americans are a cesspool amalgamation of puke-shit that relishes Trumpland.

    Just my, and most of the worlds, opinion. Hell, Mike Pence will probably tell voters not to worry, that all they need do is have faith in God and everything will be OK.
     
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  9. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Most Americans are anti-Trump and believe that climate change is a problem. It is likely he will be gone after next year. Until then we have to live through it,
     
  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    just as long as they make a sizable donation to the tax free profit making they call a political church state
    actungbabycheeses

    i have on rare occasion met some americans, and some of them were quite nice

    though to be fair i have met the odd person from many different countries and the ass-hole-ometer rating tends to be non consistent with national identity until you gain critical mass

    hell-pence-worth
    maybe he will be able to prey the climate away

    what do you draw that conclusion on ?
    has something changed in the heart of the republican voters ?
    or are you suggesting the non voting democrats who believe the entire system is rigged to service the rich elite will get up and vote like they did for obama ?

    dont see either happening
    trump will roll back in again, just
    im not sure his health will last though unless he doesn't turn up for work 4 days out of 5

    you wont find a single republican marching in the environmental protection protests

    "just harden up" doesnt always work.

    ALL the science shows he is MOST likely to maintain the presidency

    both-sides complacent apologist de-motivational submissionary media directly motivates the less likely to vote to be even less likely to vote as they feel things will change.
    (i am not asserting you are deliberately projecting that)

    .. just dont upset the dictator screams the merchants selling sex in the house of the lord(metaphours for Meta Data Gods living in capitalist tax havens living off the poor working class as financial cannibals)
     
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  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-49795270

    the fat bully is sitting in the drivers seat of the school buss
    the buss is driving toward a corner with oncoming traffic and a cliff
    the fat school bully is stuffing his face with pies and not steering the buss
    the fat school bully stuffing his face with pies is bullying other kids from being able to get into the drivers seat and steer the buss away from the on coming traffic and the cliff.

    the fat school bully stuffing his face with pies is crying and playing the victim and saying there is no such thing as cliffs and oncoming traffic because he cant see them because he is trying to eat the pies he stole from the other kids in the buss.


    and the parents are saying ...
    oh yes you have to toughen up children
    there is no such thing as a free pie

    but the fat school bully pie stealing victim card playing child is actually an adult
    and he has been elected to be a leader.

    and that fat school bully pie stealing childrens lunch stealing bully is sitting in government and is about half of all the government leaders sitting there staring into the TV camera
    getting fat off working class taxes
    voting against universal health care
    stealing more and more pies and lunches off children

    the real life cartoon psychopath you voted to be your leaders

    now you want to force them to understand science to help others ?
     
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  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I doubt it. There are a lot of deplorables in the US.
     
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  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I wouldn't bet on that.

    What are the Democrats doing differently in this election cycle, compared to the last one? What will swing the swing voters away from Trump and towards the Democrats?
     
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  14. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    With the superdelegates, it seems that the "democratic" party is democratic in name only.
    When I think of the DNC, Boss Tweed comes to mind.
     
  15. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Curiously: it seems that Global Climate Strike has struck the political science veign
    maybe an artery
    gushing forth
    ......
    .......
    ........
    like a cartesian well, it pumps itself
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Keep in mind that without extensive gerrymandering and an electoral college that prevents a popular vote, the republican party would not exist.
     
  17. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Because of controversy over super-delegates in 2016, their role has been diminished for 2020. The main problem for the party tight now is that there are too many candidates.
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    trump didn't win with the swing voters
    he won by gaining new registrations
    and he won by democrats staying home and not voting

    the combined 2 gave him the fragile lead in the gerrymandered states.

    the majority of the population voted with a majority of around 1.3 million for the democratic party

    so the republican presidency is a minority government

    pandering to those extremists has maintained a media lead on legitimizing that position

    if all the democrat voters got off their big fat lazy asses and voted
    the democrats would win ... only just

    the "swamp people" vote won the last election
    all those fringe anti establishment socialist policy hack no tax paying outliers who thought trump would stick it to the establishment voted for him like flash new lipstick on a pig

    they thought that trump would turn the republican party into an actual republican party
    lol

    now as long as they believe the day dream that trump will keep those dirty mexican bandits out of the usa they will likely keep voting for him to try and prove they were not wrong.
    even though he has not delivered anything for them.
    they dont really care anyway
    they simply dont trust the government.
     
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  19. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Because you have drunk the Republican koolaid, and lost your ability to observe or remember.

    Boss Tweed was not afraid to wield power. The DNC is. For example.

    The Democratic Party is not rigidly controlled by its leadership - there are good, honest, and democratic politicians in it, willing to defy its leadership. Another example.

    Meanwhile: The Republican Party is fascist. Don't forget that.
     
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    what is climate science ?
    to the right it is pro environmental regulation for bad people and bad companys
    the bad people and bad companys don't like it

    to the left it is future proofing quality of human life

    the over all effect of climate science shows investment needed in changing the way producers & consumers use certain materials.
    bad company's and bad people do not like it
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49807745


    no planet B
    its time we made this planet A
    instead of allowing people to treat it like planet D
    Leaders need to Lead

    To those whom believe in god, why abuse & Destroy the best and only home God has given ? is it not worthy of equal salvation to your soul ?
    Does the planet deserve the right to have a soul that should be respected ?
    Like the Gift of Free Will.. why defile it ?

    To those whom do not believe in a god, do you believe in your grandchildren having a future at least equal to your own life ?

    What use are morals and culture if the leaders do not lead with the interests of the citizens at heart putting their morality & future(& the Future welfare of their children & Grandchildren) as their #1 lifes work ?
    why else should they be leaders of the citizenry of the world ?

    They call themselves world leaders
    Are they
    Are they leading the world
    where are they leading the world
    vote for those who seek to build a future & protect the present


    Good to see an adult, being an adult(leading by example) about the situation ❤️

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  22. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    keep in mind that without the electoral college, rural Americans don't have any real representation.
    There are some good Dem candidates that I can respect (though I don't completely agree with) but I doubt they'll make headway considering the fighting within the party

    this depends entirely on the people and what the party leadership actually produces to vote on, TBH.

    Americans tend to forget that there are more than just two choices at the polls.

    offered IMHO only: until we get to a point of a considerable, viable and imminent threat to the people, the nation will not unite for a common cause.
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Without the electoral college, rural voters and city voters would have exactly the same representation.
     

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