Get to know Mr. Trump, the president of United States of America

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  1. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    I encourage all of the liberals on this site to see past the CNN lies and likes propaganda and actually look at what Mr. Trump, the president of USA, has done so far in terms of executive actions.

    From Latest to Earliest:

    Executive Order: Reducing Regulation and Controlling Regulatory Costs

    Ethics Commitments by Executive Branch Employees

    Executive Order: Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States

    Executive Order 13768: Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States

    Executive Order 13767: Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements

    Executive Order 13766: Expediting Environmental Reviews and Approvals for High Priority Infrastructure Projects

    Executive Order 13765: Minimizing the Economic Burden of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act Pending Repeal

    Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...actions-complete-list-so-far-orders/97229452/

    Together We Will Make America Strong Again!
    I am proud to be an American under an amazing leadership and a great President.

    I strongly encourage all of you to look past our differences in liberal and conservative views and media bigotry and discuss these executive actions instead or the future executive actions which will be signed by Mr. Trump.
     
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  3. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Not one of those is beneficial to the middle class citizen... and several are actively harmful. Your fantasy will inevitably come crashing down around you...
     
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  5. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    Your Obama deceptions are already crashing down on you. The stock market was supposed to collapse, according to liberal propaganda, but that didnt happen. Say whaaaaat? Instead it went past historic maximum. Say whaaaat?
     
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  7. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Who was saying it would crash by now? Of course it's on the rise - corporations are rejoicing at the removal of consumer protections and other regulatory measures that enforced some measure of moral behavior... Now they can ramp up their profits and, when the well dries up, leave Average Joe to foot the cleanup.

    It has happened before, and nothing Trump is doing will prevent it from happening again.

    It isnt an Obama deception, desperate though you are for that to be true. It's simple economic fact.
     
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  8. karenmansker HSIRI Registered Senior Member

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    . . . . . Oh well . . . . Here we go again . . . .'he said she said' . . . . . ho hum!!!
     
  9. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, let's get to know our President - he's very neighborly...

    President Trump Threatens to Send U.S. Troops to Mexico to Take Care of 'Bad Hombres'

    President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them itself, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

    The excerpt of the call did not make clear who exactly Trump considered "bad hombres," — drug cartels, immigrants, or both — or the tone and context of the remark, made in a Friday morning phone call between the leaders. It also did not contain Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto's response.

    Still, the excerpt offers a rare and striking look at how the new president is conducting diplomacy behind closed doors. Trump's remark suggest he is using the same tough and blunt talk with world leaders that he used to rally crowds on the campaign trail.

    http://time.com/4657474/donald-trump-enrique-pena-nieto-mexico-bad-hombres/
    He "tells it like it is", right dra.. err... youreyes?
     
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  10. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Do you have anything of value to add besides your usual drive-by trolling?
     
  11. karenmansker HSIRI Registered Senior Member

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    Sadly, you confuse expressing one's 1st Amendment rights with trolling . . . . when it is convenient for you to do so to supplant your political rhetoric . . . somewhaat akin to censorship, it it not?
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The two are not mutually exclusive. One can use one's 1st Amendment right to troll.
     
  13. karenmansker HSIRI Registered Senior Member

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    TE="DaveC426913, post: 3434314, member: 19467"]The two are not mutually exclusive. One can use one's 1st Amendment right to troll.[/QUOTE]
    troll2
    trōl/
    verb
    gerund or present participle: trolling
    1. 1.
      informal
      make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
      "if people are obviously trolling then I'll delete your posts and do my best to ban you"
    Do you have anything of value to add besides your usual drive-by trolling? [Reported]
    Kittamaru, 17 minutes ago [IMHO, This is the pot calling the kettle black, here, Kittamaru?]
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    OK, there seems to be some confusion here.

    • Kitt contributes to the thread topic in post 4.
    • KM, quotes and shoots directly at Kitt, criticizing Kitt's contribution, but not actually contributing to the discussion itself.
    • Kitt calls KM out on a destructive, trolling comment.
    • KM thinks that criticising a post without contributing to the thread is exercising his/her 1st Amendment Right (the right to criticize another member, I guess) but thinks it is not trolling.
    • KM then erroneously accuses Kitt of trolling when Kitt called out KM's actual trolling.
    The upshot is that KM' s comment has derailed the thread by issung a personal attack, without topical contribution.
    That is trolling.

    I agree with reporting this thread. It will facilitate removing the nonconstructive post(s), all starting with KM's post #5.
     
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  15. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well, before you tell other people to look at Trump's executive orders, perhaps you should take a little of your own advice. Because if you had, you would know that most of Trump's executive orders are either routine, something every POTUS does, or of little real consequence. You, those like you, seem to think Trump can rule by decree. He can't.

    And it's more than a bit hypocritical for and those like you to complain about Obama's use of executive orders while praising the executive orders of the candidate you like. Trump has used his executive orders as PR instruments but have little real world consequence other than to deceive folks like you into thinking he is actually doing something.
     
  16. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    so Trumps executive actions had no feasible effects?
     
  17. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, we are getting to know our new POTUS. His first week was an unmitigated disaster. I don't think any one can legitimately argue otherwise, and we can see readily see the impact in the stock markets. Stocks have been falling over concerns related to The Donald.
     
  18. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Was it? The stock market did collapse, it was down 900 points on the news of Trump's victory, before it recovered. The recovery was based on a number of things, some of which have nothing to do with Trump.

    First, in the 3rd quarter, the economy grew at an annualized rate of 3.5% and the nation was close to full employment which in Trumpian terms is "yuge" and that had absolutely nothing to do with Trump or his merry band of Republicans. Two, after the election, one party controlled both Congress and the White House. That meant the end of gridlock. If Democrats would have won Congress and the White House the results would have been the same. Investors believed that with one party in control of Congress and the presidency, the nation was no longer at risk of a politically inspired debt default and rational fiscal policy became a possibility. The Federal Reserve was no longer the only game in town.

    Three, Trump had promised a "yuge" fiscal stimulus package. He promised to deliver a trillion dollars in infrastructure spending. He promised another 12 trillion dollars (over 10 years) in tax cuts, and he promised another 10 trillion (over 10 years) in additional defense spending. That's a "yuge" fiscal stimulus. Obama's fiscal stimulus in the bowels of the Great Recession when the economy was shrinking at an annualized rate of 10% an unemployment topped 10% amounted to only 750 million dollars. Obama's stimulus package resulted in a 12 percent increase in economic growth. Imagine how much economic growth would be produced by Trump's multitrillion dollar stimulus package? That's why the markets have rallied.

    The markets are expecting Republicans will turn from deficit hawks as they have been for the last 8 years into the typical profligate big spender they always are when they control both Congress and the White House.

    Since Trump assumed the office of president, the stock markets have been down owing mostly to Trump's irrational and incompetent behaviors. Investors are feeling very nervous about The Donald and for good reason. His incompetence may destroy any expected fiscal stimulus.
     
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  19. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Many of Trump's executive orders are pretty meaningless from a practical perspective. They order people to do things they clearly cannot do or are so weakly worded as to become meaningless - other than to fool folks like you.

    Let's look at "Executive Order 13765: Minimizing the Economic Burden of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act Pending Repeal" as an example, has it done anything? Has it changed anything? It hasn't. It's just window dressing to fool people like you. It's a show, and Trump prides himself on being a showman.
     
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  20. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    NASDAQ is up 3.93% since beginning of Jan, 2017, S&P is 0.96% up, DJI is up too same period of one month. If you are looking at daily volatility as a sign of Trump's mischiefs and forming a concensus as to his persona...well that is rather detrimental. Or shall I judge a person by one day?
     
  21. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    The POTUS primary responsibility, as our political SERVANT (not leader, servant) is to ensure that Laws created by Congress (whom actually run the USA) are legal, follow the US Constitution, are executed and then enforced.

    Assuming we're not at war, whereby he takes on the additional role as Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, the POTUS should piss off and don't do anything else.



    I would just keep this in mind, because each step we move towards Alpha Monkey In Chief is a step in the wrong direction. One day, we will either end up with a Right Wing National Socialist - who will kill a lot of minorities and start lots of wars, or a Left Wing Progressive Communist - who will just kill. Whomever. AND, the way I sees it, we're going to go Left. Maybe right. Sure, it's possible. But I think Left. The Left are renown for unimaginably high citizen murder rates.

    Something to think about

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  22. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Here are is what you are conveniently overlooking; since Trump was sworn into office the stock markets have done nothing but fall. That's not a consensus; that's a fact. All that growth you cited occurred under the previous president: President Barrack Obama.

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  23. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Is this a joke? Can we bring back tar and feathering?
     

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