If germany and france had stayed united against iraq, instead of using there own domestic troubles as the main reason, behind there negative support on war with iraq if all else failed. In germany the chancellor was trying to get re-elected, so he used the iraq issue to do it, by saying germany would play no part in it. In france the froggies were doing over 10 billion dollars of business with saddam, so they did not want war. So saddam played against the weakness in the united nations, knowing there would never be U.N. sanctioned war against him, forcing America and the uk to go in alone. All loony leaders back down when the world is united, in this case they were not, if they had of been bluff might have been enough, to make saddam back down. Now we have the samething happening in iran, first we have the idiot of a german leader making a pre-election speach that war will never be a option with iran. once again he is using another nuclear showdown issue as a springboard to get re-elected, and france once again is doing billions of dollars of business with iran. So we have the iranians already knowing that the united nations is going to do jack shit, even if they are developing nukes, because the idiot germans have shown our cards already. It makes me laugh the frogs and the nazis, when there is a overseas war or in yugoslavia, they commit the lowests troop force numbers, while the american and brits always commit the most, yet these two wanker countries have so much to say on international affairs, and now it looks like the pair of them are going to be responsible for a war with iran, by once again tipping our hand to the enemy on what we may or may not do. Nazis and froggies are spineless cockroaches.