Just leave if you are worried about the current state of affairs in your country. That's what you said freedom was.
thats right spurious freedom is the ablity to leave where you are for something better. sounds like you are cranked up and ready to go. raither has been rubbing that monkey pelt the wrong way i see. no need to take a big chomp out of my butt. raither, baron max quit pissing in monkeys corn flakes he's chewing everybodys ass
I have to wait a few months. The water in my freedom loving american swimming pool is still too cold to swim in. Have to swim in it at least once in 2006. Baron is ok. He is indiscriminate in his chewing.
what was the name of that song that said freedom is just another name for nothing else to lose? to be honest i never gave it much thought i also am not a man of the world as you seem to be, i wish i was maybe then i could join you in kicking some much deserved ass.
Let's get back to the topic of freedom. All that fake discussion is getting boring. So Leopold, maybe we could theoretically state that freedom doesn't exist from the most essential perspective: freedom of will. Leaves us with the next big thing: Freedom of mind. And for you for instance, freedom of 'movement' (being an extension of freedom of mind). We all need a sense of freedom to be satisfied. This could be a false sense of freedom or could be real.
it's like 50 degrees where i'm at, i can't believe it i remember when i lived in cleveland we would have something like 2 feet of snow at a time you got a pool? and your gripeing? wheres mine at, i'm jelous.
75 degrees here. But the nights are still too cold to be permissive for heating up the water properly. It's not strictly my pool. Have to share with my neighbours and other people on the 'complex', or whatever you call it here in the US. Quite a communist thing to do if you start thinking about it.
what do you think is it will or mind or movement. freedom of will hhmm, what are you saying, that whatever a person "wills" then they should be able to accompish it? like i said i really haven't given it much thought
i believe that the u.s. government will have to incorporate some aspects of communism, socialism and others.
Not at all, I like you just fine spurious. I am able to disagree, even vehemently, with people I like. Sorry to hear you can't do the same. I know, it must be the result of that that rampant-freedom-loving-patriotic-brainwashing-propaganda I've been spoon fed all my life. You know. The one that tells me that people have the right to their own opinions, even ones you disagree with. Sorry, I'll try to think for myself and hate you for disagreeing with me. You're the one bringing up the "small details"; I just like demonstrating that when you throw your numbers around you're not showing the whole picture. But you don't like this probably because it tends to deflate the point you're trying to make and occasionally obliterates it entirely. My point above was quite simple but apparently you'd rather ignore it because it doesn't fit your ideology. If you can't understand how the influx of millions of poverty stricken people from other countries every year might just maybe affect the poverty rate in the US then there's no sense in me trying to explain it to you. In case you might actually take the time to understand someone else's argument (I know, that's quite a stretch for you) why don't you look at the table 5 here: http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1603.html No, and I find your insinuation quite insulting. I was angry at first but then I realized your problem; try to see past your own hatred because you are incredibly bigoted. ~Raithere
There was no big picture. Your big picture turns out to be small. please continue to make excuses and accusations. I mean I have stricken away all your illegal aliens and your poverty levels are still very high for a western country (see one of the previous posts). Why do you actually bother denying that you have a poverty problem in the US? Why make excuses? Ever been in western europe? Ever seen so much poverty as in the US? I haven't. No wait, my experience doesn't count of course. My experience isn't good enough for Mr Raithere because he knows everything better and oh my if someone levels some criticism towards the US. boohoo...Mr Raithere feels hurt and must mount an argument no matter if the topic is irrelevant. boohoo Raithere. You are a cry baby. The first step to a solution is acknowledging there is a problem. No, let's blame the poor people that they aren't rich. Pretty fucking intellectual thing to do isn't it?
This is funny. You're a funny guy spurious, you make me laugh. It's okay, I'm sure that other people understand my point even if you don't. ~Raithere
That must make you feel better that other people understand your point. Well, congrats on that. That doesn't make you right. Haha...you thought so didn't you! When people agree with you you are right. you crack me up.
Let's make a summary of what raithere has been saying so far: 1. you don't give a crap about other people. It is there fault they have problems. (poor could be rich, because the paper boy can become a millionaire argument) 2. you don't give a crap about other people, because you want to do whatever you feel like doing. That includes fucking over people. (no constraint or coercion). 3. you think the solution to problems is making excuses. maybe some people can't see through fancy words and do not bother to read links. But I can. You don't impress me with your bullshit.
Hey Einstein, I looked at your table! My apologies mate, fuck me. How could I not see that. No wait...I retract my apology. They are talking about foreign born in that table. Not illegal immigrants. You like pooling non-related links don't you to make an invalid point.
of course, there couldn't be any immigrant problems in the Netherlands for instance. I mean, only the US has immigrants. Did you catch this: In 2000, immigrants accounted for 45 percent of Rotterdam’s population. Just a local problem? http://www.cpb.nl/nl/pub/cpbreeksen/bijzonder/47/ Immigrants have problems? Only in the US? Of course you can't really take my word for it if I say that I don't see that many foreigners in the US as I am used to in the Netherlands. No, it is all a figment of my imagination to you and a biased view. Says someone who never lived outside the US.
Yeah, you're right. Knowing that it is your refusal to consider what I'm saying and not my inability to communicate my point does make me feel good. Otherwise I'd be frustrated. No. If I did I would have said so. I said what I meant. The point was that even if you refuse to consider what I'm saying there are other people who will, so I'm not completely wasting my time. If I were only talking to you I would be. When you fail to even consider that adding a million or so impoverished people to the population every year might have an effect on the number of people who are impoverished in this country you're obviously not looking to discuss anything, you just want to state your opinion. Why you even bother to pretend at discourse, I have no idea. ~Raithere
