Yes, very true! That's just one of the common problems with energy crackpot nuts - they don't understand or even know about things like back-EMF and energy conversion losses. Pretty much everything they say is based on just a little knowledge with no appreciation whatsoever with all the other principles involved. Put into plain words, they are grossly ignorant. (Not to mention that most of them are also delusional and paranoid as well. What a wonderful combination of human attributes!!!!)Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!