Finding Salvation

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Pipes75, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    O yes... an its so much simpler to juge from an ivory tower... "let them eat cake.!!!"

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  3. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    i'm not judging, i'm observing. what do you suggest i do about it? i don't want anyone telling me what to do with my destiny...why would i tell anyone else?
     
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  5. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    O yes... an its so much simpler to make un-biased observatons from an ivory tower.!!!
     
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  7. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Mat 25:46

    "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
     
  8. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    my observations are biased by my experience down here with everybody else. don't get shitty with me because i have no interest in going to hell ok?
     
  9. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    ever know any hateful destructive people? they'll turn anywhere they are into hell.
     
  10. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    You perty much thank crazy people choose to be that way... do you thank people who have horrible genetic disease brout it on themselfs.???

    So mos people on earf are curently in hell... are you curently in heaven.???
     
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  11. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    i think most people should be able to recognize the fact that there is something seriously and inherently wrong with us. that's a clue.



    nope.
     
  12. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    The Devil is disguised as a bad thought, making this more difficult for people to understand that he actually exists. People are not bad inherrently, they choose to be because of outside influences or The Devil persuades them to make a bad/wrong choice. This is probably the worse thing you can do because over time of giving in to these evil thoughts they become part of you and quite automatic part of your choices over the rest of your life. If people only realized and understood.
     
  13. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    oK... you understan... so do you continue to choose to give in to evel thouts.???
     
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    Do you know any "famous" person curently livin on earf who is in heaven... or do you have to be dead to be in heaven.???
     
  15. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    why do you ask me these things? i'm obviously not dead.

    i think that heaven would be a very different place than earth.

    if you're talking about some nirvana existence, i don't know of anyone, famous or not, who has achieved that, but who knows...
     
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    So everbody is borned into hell on earf wit a genetic disease they deserve... but thru reincarnaton mos of the people in mental hospitals will be able to overcom those obsticals an make it to heaven

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    Heres the thang ND... im on a misson from God... an i can help you reduce the number of evel thouts you mite have which woud please Jesus... eh.!!!

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    The choise is you'rs... choose wizely.!!!

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  18. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    this is not a reiteration of what i've said.

    here on earth, the genetic disorder allows us to experience good and evil, unlike heaven or hell, where those two things would be extrapolated into a pure existence of either.

    i think it's crazy to choose evil knowingly, and lots of people do that, which does in fact determine their destiny.
     
  19. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    But I do believe in afterlife, I just see unlimitted possibilities for what light can become, and where light can go.

    My Heaven might not be the same place as yours. There are many places that Heaven and Hell can both be found.
     
  20. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know.

    I'd take on more pain if I thought it would help ease the suffering of others.

    Pain helps remind me I'm alive.

    Pain helped to show me love, when I took too much for granted until it was lost.

    I don't think we can love freely if we are afraid of pain.

    My love is an extreme, so I need some pain from time to time just to stay balanced. Mind you, this world is so full of pain and suffering, I find their is more then enough pain, but not enough free love.
     
  21. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Why do we need to esperience good an evel.???

    Dont we need to choose evel to fully esperience it.???
     
  22. Pipes75 Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not religious, I'm spiritual. I can just see the benifiets to any form of spiritual guidance. I also see the many problems with religion too. Many religious minds are just as extreme as many of the scientific minds. I live between extremes, not in them.

    I do believe to know some of the details about the universe, but I don't know it all, and my metephorical meaning doesn't make complete sense physically yet, cause I'm still learning. But the universe was just the result of a positive and a negative intercacting with eachother, kinda like a male and female giving birth to a child.

    As for God - I have stated time and time again, you don't need to believe in God, to find what you need in yourself.

    I don't deny evolution, but I do question if it was all natural. Many holes in that theory. Many holes in most scientific theories. Alot of assumptions get made in science because the truth is, they don't know enough factual stuff.
     
  23. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm... anuther mystery solved... thanks.!!!

    Good pont... i thank it shud be manditory that ALL scientific theories be based on facts.!!!
     

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