Dywyddyr-false beleifs.???

I ant sure what you mean... please give a specific esample of what you'r talkin about.!!!

 

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which part?

you are just mean..:bugeye:

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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
but whatever bad trates i mite have i dont beat myself up over it... ”

Give an esample of that.!!!


Origionaly posted by cluelusshusbund
“ But i dont see "rules" we learned as children as bein false beleifs jus because we dont agree wit those rules as an adult ”

oK... "personal rules"... an they may or may not change much thru-out life... but whatever you'r current rules about life are... jus as befor... they are based on informaton that makes sinse at the time... i see "false-beleif" as tryin to thank somptin is true in spite of evidence to the contrary.!!!

 

Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
I ant sure what you mean... please give a specific esample of what you'r talkin about.!!!

Well perty much all of it... jus give an esample that esplanes you'r pont an i will reply to it.!!!

 

Depression.

No a false belief can also be a belief based on incorrect evidence.
If the only evidence you have at the time is wrong then your assumptions and subsequent actions/ behaviour will be based on incorrect information that you believe to be true.

 

i would also suggest that such false beliefs--especially about oneself--can be based upon ignorance of the evidence, both in the sense that one doesn't know (both for oneself, and with respect to how others perceive one) and that one, consciously or subconsciously, chooses to ignore the evidence.

interestingly, this phenomenon seems to be more common with folks who are generally regarded as more "intelligent" (again, in the narrow sense of the word).

 

Meh, that's just a specialised case of "false evidence".

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heh. the notion that one ought to navigate life as though what one does not know, or what one does not understand, is simply irrelevant--or non-existent--has always fascinated me. unfortunately, this seems to in so many respects define the "american way."

 

isn't the reason you don't beat yourself up over it is because you don't want the feelings of worthlessness that comes with thinking about whats 'wrong' with you?

great..you understand you are not as worthless as you think you are..
(subconscience will think about worthlessness more than conscience will)

this would cause you to focus on your worth..

establishing a self worth...

the 'illusion' may be caused by your subconscience desire not to focus on your own feelings of worth..
don't underestimate the subconscience desire to decieve the conscience to avoid feeling worthlessness..
intentionally?..only if you understand stress is self inflicted..

it take alot of work and strength to be able to focus on your own feelings of worthlessness so that you can see..you are not as worthless as you think you are..

the other end of this spectrum is when we act smarter/wiser/better than we actually are which results in..We are not as worthy as we make ourselves out to be

does this help?

 

Origonaly posted by cluelusshusbund
...i see "false-beleif" as tryin to thank somptin is true in spite of evidence to the contrary.!!!

O sure... evidence can be rong... but in ether case... i dont thank a sane person is capable of thankin somptin is true in spite of a preprondrence of evidence to the contrary.!!!

 

I have the advantage of being English.
Just keep a stiff upper lip and all's well with the world.

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Origionaly posted by cluelusshusbund
...but whatever bad trates i mite have i dont beat myself up over it

Not that i know of... jus like i see everbody else... i see myself as bein 100% of all i can be.!!!

Origionaly posted by cluelusshusbund
...i except myself 100% the way i am

Im not sure what a "subconscious" is... much less if i have 1... an im worthless at a lot of thangs but i dont consider myself as bein worthless...

Origionaly posted by clueluss husbund
i except the posibility that it may be an illusion that my opinions change wit evidence.!!!
i dont thank i can intentionaly deceive myself/have false beleifs.!!!

Do you thank i shud get in touch wit my "subconscious" so i will realize how wortless i realy am... an that coud lead to my life bein less stressful.???

I thank i see my "worth" perty clearly wit-out all that effort you speek of an i like what i see;;; shud i change my ways an focus on "my wortlessnesss" anyhow.???

 

Absolutely not!
Considering yourself to be worthless is NOT less stressful at all.

 

i don't think its a matter of focusing on your worthlessness..it a matter of acknowledgeing it...

remember the alamo..
the way i understand it when the alamo was attacked even thought they were outnumbered there was a hole in their defense that the enemy took advantage of..

our feelings of worthlessness is that hole..to deny them invites the enemy to attack you there.

if we were to focus only on that weakness we would leave ourslelves open to attack in other areas..
i say we have to acknowledge our feelings of worthlessness to see where we need to shore up our defenses..

to deny you have any feeling of worthlessness will invite attack..

 

Well give an esample of what you mean by "feeling of worthlessness" so i will know if we are talkin about the sam thang.!!!

 

well, it could be: were one to consider oneself so worthless as to being incapable of performing a job or any complex and time-consuming tasks, such may very well lead to a stress-free life--provided that one is provided for.

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And then there would be guilt that one is being provided for when, obviously, there is something worthwhile that could be done with those resources instead of squandering them on such a worthless person as oneself...

 

guilt? who said anything about guilt? perhaps our hypothetical individual lacks any feelings of obligation. (and keep in mind that i am being facetious.)

 

Another example of arguing cause people have their own definitions for each word.