Drowning in fear

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  1. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    When faced with Death, everything and i mean EVERYTHING goes out the window, from ethics to morality or religion.
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know that? Maybe I just consider them to different ways of reaching God. You know, many paths, one goal.
    You do get wrapped up in your theories.

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    Perhaps all religion is about recognising the singularity of the universe, its laws and the fact that we are bound by those laws in ways we do not understand or recognise. Perhaps religion is an attempt to understand that relationship
    Wasn't referring to physical reality either.

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not always and only if you are afraid of dying.

    There are quite a few societies that still put death before dishonor.

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  7. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    The society might, but I'm talking about the individual. But you are right if you have no fear/nothing to lose by dying then you aren't afraid.
     
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    I added a picture.

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  9. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, i saw. That guy must have a strong belief in reincarnation in order to overcome his fear of the unknown world after death.
     
  10. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Which then asks, can beliefs overpower fear of dying ?
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I think its more like an acceptance of death as natural, a part of the cycle of existence, not to be feared. It also puts life in perspective, as a gift to be enjoyed and shared without damaging the lives of others (since they are also gifts), to help others as a function of making this gift more accessible.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Or perhaps he recognises the true value of his life.
     
  13. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    AS a symbol of resistance ?
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    As part of a larger whole, not something individual.
     
  15. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Ok, so people can overcome their fear of dying, I assume not everyone can do that, so your average western citizen will give up everything when faced with death, In fact its more likely that in western countries that this will happen, No ?
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You mean Westerners are more afraid of dying?
     
  17. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Due to their culture possibly yes, And living and being a westerner, i can positively say that I'm afraid of dying.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    What precisely, are you afraid of?
     
  19. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    If you want to go into detail, A fear of the unknown, the eternal question " what happens to me if i die ?". I fear the unknown, and what lies in wait, and this is shared with every human being.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    But if its something that happens to all, it is natural, something that is beyond your control anyone. Why obsess about what you don't know and cannot affect?

    PS. I am attempting to understand this
     
  21. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't obsess about it, I was talking about the imminent threat of death, If they have a choice to live but abandon their beliefs, they will abandon their beliefs.

    The obsession again is a result of the unknown.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Then those beliefs would appear to be superficial, not really held by the individual, merely a kind of pretense to fit in with his/her group
     
  23. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Ah so you are saying that a core belief, that is sacred to the individual, would not be abandoned even under the threat of death ? that i can understand and accept, however i have yet to meet one with a set of beliefs that they would die for.
     

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