Does the possibility that life has no meaning, bother you?

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    I am alive, I have subjective experiences none of which are alive, in and of themselves, and will totally vanish when I die

    Sounds like you believe the PROCESSES which comprises subjective experiences continue to operate after death

    Somewhat like a belief in soul or ghost. If those two do not fit your belief what would you class you belief to be?

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  3. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    No one said subjective experiences were, themselves, alive. That's a preposterous straw man. As I said, it's irrelevant if one continues after the death of the other. What matters here is whether the two differ in needs. That is all that my contention relies upon. Read it again: http://www.sciforums.com/threads/do...meaning-bother-you.162293/page-5#post-3610072
    Are your subjective experiences only composed of the physiological needs of your body?
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Personally I don't seperate the two - psychological / physiological

    The body needs air water food and a method of getting rid of any waste produced

    The brain, a sub unit of the body, ditto. If those needs are met the brain is able to operate. Brain operation consists of chemical / electrical reactions which are called thoughts

    While it is possible to detect and record the chemical / electrical operation of the brain and, in broad terms, show where sections of the brain specialise in particular task, we cannot tease out thoughts from the recordings

    Since the brain is only a sub unit of my body I do not understand your seperation of the mind (not the brain) from the totality of ME

    IF I like to be alone - with a crowd - middle of the ocean - middle of the desert - it is ME

    It is not my physical body having its needs met with the mind (not the brain) signalling 'I want something else'

    I come as a package of ONE

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  7. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Idk what's worse a luck luster of an eternity, or a hell of a lifetime.
     
  8. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    So you have no preference what kind of food or how it tastes, so long as it provides your body with the requisite energy?
    You have no preference of colors, like in your clothes and if they match, so long at the body is amply protected from the elements?

    Or you claim that somehow, mysteriously and unbeknownst to science or your conscious experience, the body needs its clothes to match and hamburgers rather than pizza on Fridays?

    You're the one distinguishing the mind from the brain, not me. If you want to say the psychological life exists in the brain, that's fine with me. Again, that's immaterial to whether the brain has different subjective needs from the objective survival needs of the body.

    And if you want to just call it all "ME", you're simply making a bare assertion instead of an argument. That's your prerogative, but if you can't justify your beliefs, it's pointless to hash 'em out.
     
  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Yes correct

    Because they are different

    Are you saying they are the same?

    Psychological life does NOT exist anywhere

    If YOU are staying psychological life does exist please explain how it differs from plain ol' common life

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  10. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Couldn't answer a single one of my questions, eh?
    I can then only assume that you either don't have subjective food, color, etc. preferences or that you really do believe nonsense such as your physiology needing matching clothes.
    If you can't comprehend objective physiological needs and subjective needs, that's a chasm I doubt anyone can bridge.

    Hopefully ignorance is bliss.
     
  11. river

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    To the thread OP

    No

    Humanity is our meaning .
     
  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Could, but can't be bothered

    Much the same as yourself not answer my questions a few posts back

    Your post here, and I note in other threads, in large part don't make sense

    Going back to Original Post, no it does not bother me in the least life has no meaning. In fact you can expand my lack of bother to include the whole Universe, which I contend is in existence totally devoid of meaning

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  13. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    How many times do I have to tell you that it doesn't make a wit of difference if they are the same or not?
    But your avoidance of relevant questions tells me all I need to know.
     
  14. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, because then there would be no happiness, and death is a scary concept.
     
  15. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Just a wish to be stands on its own.
     
  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Original post

    Does the possibility that life has no meaning, bother you?

    Can you explain how a objective meaning to life creates happiness?

    death is a scary concept

    I would put death in the - Inevitable Reality - basket

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  17. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't see it as death.
     
  18. river

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    Interesting

    Give an example of your thinking .
     
  19. river

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    I think sometimes we just don't get it .

    What form of life has no meaning ?
     
  20. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Lovely circular logic. "I'm important because I decided I'm important."

    You are not important.
     
  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Fair enough

    So you have no concerns

    Stale mate

    He decides he's important

    You decide he is not

    On the bases he is closer to information about him than you, his decision stands, yours dismissed

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  22. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I see this life as the afterlife to the other side.
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    That does not seem to to make sense

    The other side of what?

    If you are thinking THIS life is the other side (ie something PRIOR) then prior to this life, ie prior = before I was born

    Are you contending I EXISTED (on/in some other side)? before I was born

    To much for me

    You are welcome to try to explain and put forward evidence

    Currently not buying

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