Do you think that AI will ever feel emotions?

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  1. river

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    See the echo ?

    Nothing into something is not possible . Until proven wrong , which I won't be , something from nothing is not possible . Only mathematics imagination . Which is wrong . Only something exists for infinity .
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You've already been proven wrong. "Nothing" produces particle/antiparticle pairs all the time. Been proven dozens of times.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_foam
    I guess since it happens all the time, you have some work to do on your understanding of the universe.
     
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  5. river

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    No it doesn't . looking at the site , it doesn't . Particle/antiparticle has nothing to do with nothing . Only something .
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Something does not need to be a physical thing.

    Virtual particle
    (Not to be confused with Antiparticle.)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle

    Do thoughts consist of particles? I am not talking about the physical process of thinking.
    I am talking about the "hard question" of consciousness itself. It exists, but a thought is not a physical thing.
    It is a virtual pattern.
     
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  8. river

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    Consciousness , Life , is far different from ai . Without Life ai would not exist .
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    That does necessarily follow at all.
    Moreover, you just confirmed what I just said. Life is not a physical thing, It is a state of being.
    Physics is the origin of Life, just as physics is the origin of Thought.
    And metaphysics is the origin of physics. No irreducible complexity! It must start with, value= 1
     
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  10. river

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    It does though .

    Life is physical , you are physical . All life is physical . How could you miss this ?

    Highlighted.

    Metaphysics is the thought upon the physical .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Can you prove that?
    No that is the anthropomorphic definition. Life = Existence (in any form)

    Yes, thought upon the physical is metaphysical. See above.
     
  12. river

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    Is the Universe Alive ? The Universe has Life . This planet has millions of forms of Life . Now out in the bigger picture of our Universe , if each Galaxy had only one Life form like us , one Planet Like Ours , with ALL of its Life forms , there would be a trillion life forms at our intellectual equal .
     
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  13. river

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    Thought is based on the physical , The Brain . The Physical Brain . Of which consciousness arises .
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but consciousness itself is not physical. It emerges from the physical as a metaphysical quality.
    That is why it is the "hard question" to which no one has the answer as yet.
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes and that means Life is an emergent qualitative expression of physical dynamics. There is no clear boundary between life and non-life. Abiogenesis.

    Nevertheless, it is logical mathematics that always proves to be the guiding principle in all universal dynamics.
     
  16. river

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    Consciousness emerges through experience , upon the Brain . Which evolves to become more and more conscious . Of its environment . Awareness evolves . Life thinks . Life gathers information .
     
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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    If it is physical, does consciousness gain more mass with knowledge?
    If life is physical and gathers information does it gain more mass?
     
  18. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Consciousness is a physical “process,” but I don’t believe it has mass.
     
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    IMO.
    Thinking is the physical process.
    Consciousness itself has no physical properties. It is a state of awareness, an emergent quality of the sensory network.
     
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    a programmed opinion will be indistinguishable from emotions
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Interestingly , all words that end in "......ness" and "......ment" and "......tude" are descriptive of non-physical states.

    When you add "-ness" to an adjective, it becomes a noun.

    The suffix "-ness" means "state : condition : quality" and is used with an adjective to say something about the state, condition, or quality of being that adjective.

    What is the root word of "-ment"?
    1 : result, goal, or method of a specified action entertainment. 2 : action : process development. 3 : place of a specified action encampment. 4 : state : condition amazement

    Definition of "-tude"
    : state : condition : quality exactitude decrepitude negritude.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary ›

    Search for: What do the suffix tude mean?
     
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  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    a word offered as a reply to a question
    an action created by an emotion
    an emotional interaction defining an artistic interpretation to form a narrative
    emotion being the variable subjective filter

    appropriateness
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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