Do you believe in Dinosaurs ?

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  1. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    today in the morning i found out the reality that i have a serious dandruff problem, when i searched the quran and found no mention of it, i stopped believing in the quran, and i turned atheist. (for like, what? the third time?)

    thanks for leading the way jpappl.

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    but i just DID answer it yes!! so now what? you ask the question and tell me what i have to answer?

    FOR THE ZILLIONTH TIME..WHY?


    look, let me lay it out for you, to say that two things contradict each other, like your previous assertion, you need to knew the first thing: dinosaurs, the second thing; the quran, and thirdly compare them in the context you want to prove contradictory, and reach a conclusion.

    you seem to know nothing of the quran.

    you might as well know nothing of dinosaurology.

    but you know for a fact that they contradict, which is the point of the thread.

    then comes ignorance:

    either cured by you dropping your claim.

    or by you actually doing some research.

    or not cured at all, and join the club of sciforums

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    :roflmao:

    why thank you a lot..

    no huosten, we have problems:

    1-the quran doesn't give the last number in pi.

    2-it doesn't say if donkeys have more hair on their bodies than horses or not.

    3-it doesn't say anything whatsoever about the secret karate move passed down by generations of the shaolin monks.

    4-it doesn't give the exact process of boiling an egg.

    5-it doesn't contain a chapter on dinosaurs.

    for those exact five reasons, the quran is FALSE, and not the word of god, and stuff like what's mentioned in heh heh heh is irrelative. (otherwise it wouldn't be in the cesspool)




    agreed.
     
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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Because Noah supposedly saved a pair of all species.
     
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  5. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    And regretably it is clear that one cannot have a rational discussion with someone as irrational as you. The religious books such as the Koran and the Bible are wholly compatible with the findings of science unless one is a member of one of those peculiar fundamentalists groups who take everything literally.

    They are works of history and myth and morals. They are more about how to live ones life than about how that life came about. There is simply no incompatibility. Your insistence that there is suggests you are suffering from a worse case of dogma than most fundamentalists. Shame really, the rest of your posts are generally sensible.

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    Devout agnostic (on evidential grounds)
     
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  7. jpappl Valued Senior Member

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    Which is why I just said to separate them out.

    Yep

    To most, but to some they do take them literally. That is why I ask if they believe the texts are the literal words of god.

    When they answer yes, which some here have, then there is a contradiction.

    What was genesis about. What are other creation myths about.

    There is defintely a contradiciton between believing the texts are the literal words of god and believing in dinosaurs.

    That's why more intelligent theists tend not to be fundamentalists.
     
  8. jpappl Valued Senior Member

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    scifes,

    Don't care about any of the above except number 5.

    The rest is nonsense.
     
  9. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    There is no need to believe in them. Their previous existence is well established and their ancestors the birds are still about.
     
  10. fiicere Registered Member

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    Yes
    Evidence dictates. Besides, anyone who thinks it's possible to write a literal account of the creation of the world in 300 words (the length of the Genesis creation story) is mad.
     
  11. jpappl Valued Senior Member

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    The question is do you believe the genesis creation story ?

    Do you think it is fact (literal) or just a story ?
     
  12. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    a pair of all existing species maybe..
    i think they're all nonsense.
    ok i can see your whole argument is to Christians and incompatible with the quran so i think i'll just leave you to it.
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    What are you saying ? Dinosaurs never existed ?
     
  14. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    i don't know, i mean they could've existed, died out, then humans and noah came along.
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, you see, that reply was meant for Orleander. If you are going to answer it be sure you know the context.

    Here:
     
  16. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    ooops, you're right, my bad.
     
  17. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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  18. jpappl Valued Senior Member

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    Scifes

    So now you don't believe in dinosaurs. Are you waffling on the question.

    I think you are beginning to see that the quran story of creation and reality do not line up, therefore the story is false, and is not the words of god.

    This is what in fact causes people who want to stay deluded and in denial, to say they don't believe in dinosaurs. It's the only way to make the story appear valid again.

    That question was to Fiicere, who is a christian.

    Same question to you.

    I know you believe the quran is the words of god. So do you believe the 6 day creation story as literal fact ?
     
  19. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes to the OP.

    I've seen Morag.
     

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