Do we see reality as it is?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Magical Realist, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Why? You think I am playing games?
    Optical illusions illustrate the limits of our cognitive powers. This is why we need agreement on GR in order to understand reality.
     
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  3. river Valued Senior Member

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    Does it though ?
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Test it for yourself. Can you make the silhouette spin both ways? I can, it took me about 15 seconds the first time I saw it.
     
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  7. river Valued Senior Member

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    Nope one direction
     
  8. river Valued Senior Member

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    No ; both directions ; saw it ; but your point is ?
     
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  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Your first answer and the correcton in your second answer prove the point.

    Not everyone can do it at all and can only see the dancer spinning one way or the other, but
    are unable to make it spin both ways.

    The reason I used this example is to show that we we may look at the same thing we may*interpret
    *reality*
    differently.
     
  10. river Valued Senior Member

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    Give me an example in every day life experences .

    Look ; we can see things diffferently.

    Thats why so many brilliant people are on this site; they see things differently. Hence they think that this website is the place to express their thinking.

    This website has the potential more than it knows.

    But your example of different means nothing other than a lab. experiments
     
  11. river Valued Senior Member

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    We see reality as it is . we always have.

    We just have difficulty grasping that we do.

    Do we see the full spectrum of the electromagnetic spectrum ? No

    But could we handle all the information given ? No
     
  12. PaulJames Banned Banned

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    I can also see both directions. At first I thought the shadow was the counterclockwise spin but it was watching the shadow that allowed me to see the other cycle.
     
  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    What though in everyday life behaves this way ?

    Does video really depict any aspect of reality ?

    No
     
  14. river Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm....the " woo " is not ; nowadays ; woo any more .

    The younger people ....are thinking upon ; what was once " woo " . is now . The. " woooo " is out there being talked about ; its no big deal quite frankly ; its the older generation ; conservative generation that has a problem with this " woooo " .

    Good for them .

    the young will discover ; in huge strides ; what our conservative ; narrow minded ; arrogant ; egotistical ; generation ; could never hope to discover ;

    That is what really is out there.

    Do we see reality as it is ; of course we do ; within our physical natural abilites to do so .

    And when we can not ; we have technology.

    river
     
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  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    So we agree, that's a good thing. A fundamental agreement on our reality as much as it is possible for us to determine, even if there is no observer.

    Should we disagree on what reality is, is that a good thing? We can speculate on that which we cannot observe, but neither can we claim that something is true or real, without any evidence.
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    That's good. It shows a well developed and flexible mirror neural system.
    This is a personal speculation but there is some evidence for it.
     
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  17. river Valued Senior Member

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    Agree on what exactly ?

     

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