Moderator note: It appears that a debate on this topic was started without clear agreement as to the debate format. Readers are warned that the resulting debate does not really fit the format of the Formal Debates forum. It is retained here for those who are interested, although the discussion thread is closed. [thread=90058]Proposal thread[/thread]. [thread=90071]Debate thread[/thread]. [thread=90070]Discussion thread[/thread] ---- Ok, I'm going to temporarily wait for Macyver to open up the debate part of this, as he has already submitted his opening for it. This discussion is for everyone else to put in their 2 cents. Please note the following: I may not respond if you people do any of the following things: Use words such as the f word in all of its permutations, moron, stupid, idiot, bitch, whore or their derivatives (moronic, stupid argument, idiotic, etc.) or any other fairly insulting personal attack. I am fine with put downs such as lame, obtuse and allusions to flocks and flock mentalities.