Differential Gravimetric Observatory

Discussion in 'Architecture & Engineering' started by danshawen, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. danshawen Valued Senior Member

    This idea for construction of a differential gravimetric observatory is based on 'alternative theories': 'Higgs Loophole Gravity and Emergent Space', developed by myself and two colleagues.

    When I was attending the University of Maryland, College Park in the 1970s, Dr. Joseph Weber, a Navy trained engineer turned physicist attempted to acoustically isolate multi-ton solid aluminum cylinders with piano wire. Surrounding each cylinder was an array or ring of piezoelectric detectors which generated a voltage if any tidal forces from gravity waves happened by to warp any of the dimensions of the Weber bars. No confirmed measurement of a single gravity wave was recorded by any of the devices in College Park or elsewhere, other than the occasional acoustic rumble of trucks rolling up and down nearby US Rt 1. The idea was sound, after a fashion, but the sensitivity of the detectors fell short by tens, perhaps hundreds of orders of magnitude.

    LIGO has more recently used interferometry techniques similar to the old Michealson-Moreley experiment, using a single fixed position laser interferometer (rotates with the surface of the Earth over time). LIGO has not successfully demonstrated a single instance of a detected gravity wave either, nor has the experiment provided any engineering insight as to why this is the case. A plan by NASA to duplicate the same apparatus in space is likely to meet with the same lack of success, but this is not to say that the task is an impossible one. Quite the contrary. The LIGO facility has been roundly criticized, among other things, for specifying unobtainable flatness for their plane mirror assemblies. Obviously, this approach would make little difference if the cause of gravity itself is not sufficiently well understood.

    A new alternative theory of gravity is in the works that explains gravitation as the result of a continuously applied Higgs mechanism imparting energy 'acceleration' to space itself surrounding gravitating bodies. In this theory, only time and energy are fundamental. Both space and mass are emergent. As is already known in quantum mechanics in the Standard Model, time never runs at exactly the same rate at any two points in space on a quantum scale, nor in our scale in the space near gravitating bodies. Higgs Loophole Gravity and ES is consistent with both the Standard Model and General Relativity.

    A measurement of the differential temporal gradient using a spherically radial interferometer array compared with a reference timebase that is physically separated as far as possible from gravitationally interacting bodies such as local planets or moons should easily provide a means to finally succeed in measuring the strength of a passing gravity wave, and most importantly, its predominant direction, where other engineering approaches have failed. This approach differs in many important respects from any previous attempts to construct an observatory capable of detecting gravity waves.

    A Lagrange point stationed near Earth would probably not work as the temporal reference, as these points are fast becoming filled with other experiments. The James Webb telescope scheduled for launch in 2018 is only one example.

    If someone wants to write a proposal for this project, you have my permission to proceed. This is the first of what I hope will be many practical applications of Higgs Loophole Gravitation.
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  3. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

    Thank you for posting your idea for a differential gravimetric observatory, along with the history if the idea. People may want to also follow your thread in the Alternative Theories sub-forum on the Higgs Mechanism Loophole Gravity and Emergent Space hypothesis.
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  5. danshawen Valued Senior Member

    A more compact and sensitive design might also be possible if the interferometry apparatus could somehow use Higgs bosons instead of photons. It's a shame they don't (as far as we currently know) hang around long enough to do much interferometry with them.
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  7. river

    Perhaps looking at scalar in Maxwells equations and going back to ether would help

    Gravity from what I understand from what I read , is part of the scalar oscillating , longitudinal wave , and the wave is modulated by gravity

    Inotherwords , interferometry won't detect gravity waves

    Just saying
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2014
  8. river

    I'm wrong

    here from Josephs book , The Giza Death Star Deployed , pg. 178

    " The basic method of creating the phenomenon was through interferometry: combining beams of electromagnetic energy on a non-linear propagating medium , such as radar absorbent material :

    If two weak monochromatic ( electromagnetic ) waves are run together , 180 degrees out of phase , and run through a nonlinear medium so that they modulate each other and lock together, they make a strange " scalar ( electromagnetic ) wave " , that is an electrogravitational wave of pure potential , and one that you are controlling . Such a wave goes down through the electron shell of the atom , and is absorbed in the nucleus . If you choose the right mix of waves in the scalar wave, and just keep irradiating the nuclei with that " pattern " the nuclei will gradually rearrange themselves . "

    Bearden is the author of this quote
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2014
  9. danshawen Valued Senior Member

    Geostationary satellites came from science fiction by means of Arthur C. Clarke. I made a career of R&D in that sector of technology. Mind you, this does not happen quite the way that one went down very often. Clarke's space elevator has yet to see practical application that is very much beyond the idea of space elevators that work like orbital slingshots.

    No one yet knows enough about gravity or gravity waves to apply it to a project as ambitious as the one I was suggesting. If we really did have practical gravity wave detectors, the first thing we would be able to see with it would be a sort of live electronic rendition of an orrery for our own solar system.

    I doubt this early entry made a clear case for this. It's strongest point seems to be that the attempts we have so far made to detect gravity waves isn't working, and I totally agree that either interferometry is not the way to go, or else (more likely) we haven't a clue about how to extract the signal we actually need. Because gravity acts in all directions at once and gravity waves, if they can be detected at all, can arrive most strongly oriented in literally any direction, detecting gravity waves will need to perform differential interferometry, at a minimum, in order to detect anything.

    If your only means for measuring gravity waves are the Earth's tides, you aren't going to get much of a signal by attempting to measure the depth of those tides at the wrong angle, or by using an instrument better suited for odometry to measure something more akin to fluid flow. There. That should finally be clear enough.

    If the Higgs mechanism continuously interacts with large gravitating masses, an instrument like the one I described to measure gravity waves is a real possibility. A stone falls to Earth in a direction that is determined by its location on the surface. In Australia, it falls in a direction opposite that in the US. An interferometer looking for temporal variations in a fixed direction or one that very slowly tracks the rotation of the Earth will measure nothing that ever looks like the effects of a gravity wave. If gravity waves exist, the strongest and most frequently changing local signal will derive of our own moon orbiting the Earth, movements of continents, or perhaps the rotation of the Earth's own core.

    So, why was there no mention in Joseph's book of Archimede's "death ray", which actually was deployed?
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2014

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