Daughter Kept in Cellar 24 Yrs

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Orleander, Apr 27, 2008.

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  1. 15ofthe19

    15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    Poor bastard, you didn't even make it the full twelve hours that I predicted.

    Do you ever just get completely depressed and overwhelmed at your own ironic addiction?
     
    15ofthe19, May 6, 2008
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  3. greenberg

    greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    They "didn't want to get involved", thought "it's her problem, not ours".
     
    greenberg, May 6, 2008
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  5. Bells

    Bells Staff Member

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    Would you have stepped in back then though?

    Lets imagine your neighbour's 16 year old daughter runs away from home, her father manages to track her down and makes her come home. Would you go over there and try to help her or demand why she was forced to return home? You need to realise that this all happened in a small village/town where everyone minded their own business. No one was going to interfere with a father forcing his daughter to return home after she ran away. And when she disappeared again 2 years later, no one in the village would have dared question it, since she had done it before.
     
    Bells, May 6, 2008
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  7. Orleander

    Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know if I would have helped either. I do know its not fair to blame the victim and say 'why didn't she...' She was a child being raised by a monster. I'm surprised she's still alive and not bar shit crazy. She was a victim, now she's a survivor.
     
    Orleander, May 6, 2008
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  8. Bells

    Bells Staff Member

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    She is still a victim. She survived her imprisonment and all the horrors that went with it. But she is still a victim and will most probably be so until she dies. She was robbed of her life, made a prisoner and a virtual sex slave for 24 years, and that's not even figuring in the sexual abuse she suffered at his hands before that. People don't simply bounce back from that. She has been permanently scarred and the same applies for her children. Even the one's who were brought up in the family home by her father and mother. I hate to imagine what finding out that their grandfather is really their father and their mother and siblings were locked up underneath them for their whole life, would do to them. How does one recover from that kind of shock?

    And they probably have it easier. They will not have to adjust to life on the outside, having to learn to socialise with others, seeing day to day things we take for granted when we are outside, feeling the sensation of the sun, rain, clouds, hail, sleet, snow on their faces. Having to learn to adapt to their new life will be horribly hard. Not just for those children, but for their mother as well, because she has spent 24 years of her life living in a basement, remembering that there was an outside world.

    She's a survivor, but she will always be a victim because what was done to her will scar her for life. The same applies to her children.
     
    Bells, May 6, 2008
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  9. greenberg

    greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    If she and her children would recover and lead normal lives - I wonder if the public would ever forgive her for not being scarred for life.
     
    greenberg, May 6, 2008
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  10. Bells

    Bells Staff Member

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    One would hope the public would just leave her and her children alone and not judge her either way.

    You have brought up an important point though. How would the public react if she did manage to recover from it and lead a normal life with her children.. Would she be judged? Would she be condemned?
     
    Bells, May 6, 2008
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  11. lucifers angel

    lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    yeah i agree! it wasn't her fault, her children and her now deserve to be left alone and left to live life in peace and not to be hounded by the press and the public, he will pay for what he did, (we hope) now the public has a duty to leave them alone and let them recover!

    the daughters mum however says.......she knew nothing about it, what a load of crock, wo where did she think her daughter went?

    she should be jailed for helping him abuse her all this time!
     
    lucifers angel, May 6, 2008
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  12. EmmZ

    EmmZ It's an animal thing Registered Senior Member

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    It always dumbfounds me how mothers offer their children up like that. My step mother was a special little gift from her mother to her father. I just can't get my head 'round it. Well, I understand people suffer from strong delusions but it doesn't make it any easier to accept.
     
    EmmZ, May 6, 2008
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  13. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    bells its sad that is even a topic but isnt that why rape victoms are never named in court procidings and why when the offender is close to the family they are not named either? (to protect the victom)
     
    Asguard, May 7, 2008
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  14. Bells

    Bells Staff Member

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    Child victims are rarely named. Adults sometimes are and do have to give evidence on many occasions. The court will often be closed to the public in such instances.
     
    Bells, May 7, 2008
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  15. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    oh i realised they had to give evidence i was taking about the way rapes are reported in the media. They generally just say "the 20 year old hackham women was alegadly raped by Mr Smith on ....". At least thats the way the reports i have seen were structure
     
    Asguard, May 7, 2008
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  16. Bells

    Bells Staff Member

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    Well yes, on most occasions, the victim's name is withheld in the media.
     
    Bells, May 7, 2008
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  17. John99

    John99 Banned Banned

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    This guy is a sick bastard.
     
    John99, May 7, 2008
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  18. Elucinatus

    Elucinatus Registered Member

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    "Natascha Kampusch finally escaped from her kidnapper, 44-year-old Wolfgang Priklopil, who killed himself shortly afterwards."
    This would make a good movie.....As long as some shitty director doesn't get a hold of it and it becomes the next teen horror flick with Shia LaBeouf and Sarah Roemer.

    I think it is fascinating what people can create for themselves. I think it is fascinating how people can create their own fiction to indulge themselves in, and keep it going for such lengths of time that it truly become reality.
     
    Elucinatus, May 15, 2008
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