Darwinism Benefits Scientific Method?

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  1. Farsight Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus H Christ, what's all this biblical religious crap doing in General Science?
     
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    All but the north wall of Jericho fell, and much fire damage, at that 1400 B.C. level.
     
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    The original post I think refers to genetic algorithms. Software that uses random numbers to find solutions to complex problems. At its heart it uses chance to produce fit and viable solutions to extremely complex problems, mostly beyond the scope of human understanding. It in its self is proof that mutation and selection is a powerful tool. Darwinism is strong not just for its easy fit to the world but for its power to extract intelligence from pure noise.
     
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    How does Darwinism supposedly "extract intelligence from pure noise?"
     
  8. D H Some other guy Valued Senior Member

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    It can't, particularly from the noise you post.

    Your first post was indeed about evolutionary algorithms, not the theory of evolution. Evolutionary algorithms are techniques used in the field of computer science that were motivated by the theory of evolution. Evolutionary algorithms are not the theory of evolution, nor are they the primary benefit of the theory of evolution.
     
  9. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    What does of any this have to do with six days creation? Where's the evidence to back it up?
     
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    The seven days of the week common throughout the world (He rested on the seventh).
     
  11. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    Very funny

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  12. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    The idea to have seven day weeks had to have come from somewhere.
     
  13. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    I think humans are capable of doing that themselves.
     
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    No they are not a theory, they are the practical application of the theory of evolution, inspired by Darwinism.

    The primary benefit of the Theory Of Evolution is a greater understanding of the natural world.

    BTW they are called Genetic Algorithms because at there heart they represent a solution as a string of numbers, analogise to DNA. Random mutation of this string produces variation in the outcome. At each iteration the fitter strings are split and recombined to produce the next generation of the solution.


    By providing a mechanism to filter out nonsense.
     
  15. ScottMana Registered Senior Member

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    Science has been retarded by the acceptance of Darwin's theary. But he is not the only major contributor of "junk" into our modern "science". Not everything is wrong, but all of it's fundamental thearies are.
     
  16. D H Some other guy Valued Senior Member

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    I did not say evolutionary algorithms are a theory. Evolutionary algorithms are in the realm of computer science, which is more akin to mathematics (theorems) than science (theories).

    I did say that evolutionary algorithms are not the theory of evolution. They are motivated by our understanding of how evolution works in biological systems, just as neural networks are motivated by our understanding of how neurons function in a brain and ant-based algorithms are motivated by our understanding of how ants find food and shelter. The biological systems from which these techniques (evolutionary algorithms, neural networks, and ant-based algorithms) received their motivation are much more complex than are the techniques based on them. Human brains are not backprop neural networks. Ant colonies are a lot more complex than ant-based search, and biological evolution is a lot more complex than any evolutionary algorithm.

    The broader term is evolutionary algorithms, of which GAs are but one instance. An excellent reference on this field is Evolution and Optimum Seeking, Hans-Paul Schwefel, Wiley & Sons, 1995.

    I agree completely.
     
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    Evolutionary algorithm theory has modeled "micro-evolutionary" (variation within respective syngameons) systems, but not "macro-evolutionary" (syngameons supposedly morphing into new syngameons) systems, very predictable.

    You'll have to try hawking something else, lots o' luck. Looks like we're still stuck on "airplane wing designs and traffic flow solutions."
     
  18. D H Some other guy Valued Senior Member

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    You are stuck on airplane wing designs. No one else is.

    Kudos for being the biggest idiot at this site, quite an accomplishment indeed.

    The greatest benefit of the theory of evolution is how it has vastly increased our understanding of the natural world. The theory of evolution is the central organizing concept of biology, the concept that makes the ad-hoc rules and concepts that preceeded the theory of evolution make sense. Without evolution, our understanding of diseases, predator-prey relationships, biochemistry, or any other field in the natural sciences would be sorely deficient.
     
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    Wrong, but feisty.
     
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    Besides, to attribute "airplane wing designs" to Darwinian evolution was silly as well, and "traffic flow solutions" too, so there's really nothing which Darwinism has inspired of any use. Good for computer graphics though, showing tree shrews morphing into humans.
     
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    Or was it the fact that there are seven visible celestial objects moving in the sky?
     
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    Perhaps, but it's more likely that, if not after the Biblical 7 days, they would've divided the lunar month of 30 days by 5 or 6 to get a 6 or 5 day week.
     
  23. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    But, the seven day week was conceived long before the bible, how do you explain that?
     
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