country and religion

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  1. ethernos Registered Member

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    how do we solve problem of wars country against country,religion against religion?will giving them common enemy work?
     
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  3. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Give them something better to do.
     
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  5. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Mayor religion : Christian .Buddhist, Islam, have the same God , there should be no problem. There should only one name for God in all languages
    Religion against religion: Remove all clergy.
     
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  7. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Try to stop Christians and Muslims from fighting by giving them Jews as a common enemy? It never worked before.
     
  8. ethernos Registered Member

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    jew are also people...i was thinking mote like isis
     
  9. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    ISIS Are young people brainwashed by clerics , That is what I mentioned remove the clerics so we might have peace. I believe Zoroaster mentioned if clerics get into leadership the faith will suffer.
     
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  10. ethernos Registered Member

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    I'm starting to see something new on horizon.....anymore suggestion please!!
     
  11. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Use Syria as an example. There are at least 3 warring groups, Syrian government, rebels (more than one group), and ISIS. The government has the support of Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah. Some rebels are are supported by the United Stakes and Turkey (complications involving Kurds). The immediate aim is the elimination of ISIS, but it is not clear what happens next.
     
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  12. timojin Valued Senior Member

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  13. ethernos Registered Member

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    are government and rebels fighting for the people?
     
  14. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    ISIS is neither country versus country nor religion versus religion.
     
  15. ethernos Registered Member

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    it is true. "common enemy turns everyone into friends irrespective of their country or religion" that is what i think at least....
     
  16. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Religion, and politics are in the same sinking boat.
     
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  17. ethernos Registered Member

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    lets make sure we don't sink along with it....
     
  18. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Ideas like, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," are as dangerous as religion or nationalism. The recent history of the Middle East is full of examples of outsider nations taking sides and switching sides.
     
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  19. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    From SideShowBob Post 15
    In the years after WW2, Churchille & Montgomery expressed concern that Roosevelt & Eisenhower were giving away too much due to considering Rusai a friend rather than a country which had a common enemy during WW2.

    My father on several occasions expressed the thought that the USA would do much better if we could allow England to conduct our foreign policy, which would never actually be politically feasible.

    BTW: I do not consider nationalism to be inherently dangerous.
     
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  20. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    BTW: My father once said that the only value provided by religion is as a restraint on those who have a poor sense of ethics & no other reason to believe in fair play when dealing with others.
     
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  21. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Did your father how ethics have developed in primitive societies ? Did he tell you from where the suggestion
    lowe thy fellow man come ?
     
  22. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    TinoJin: My father had few (if any) opinions relating to primitive societies.

    I personally believe that Homo Sapiens were able to evolve to a technological culture due to having some sense of fair play & willingness to cooperate with unrelated groups.

    Of course it might have been due merely to to passing on acquired knowledge to the next generation.

    I do not remember reading about any accepted theory relating to the Neandertals & Denisovans becoming extinct, while Homo Sapiens flourished. They seemed to have the same potential as Homo Sapiens.​

    I once wrote a short story (never published) about a tribe which gave a hunter's share of food to a tool & weapon maker who had been crippled while hunting & now made tools & weapons for the hunters, many of whom were not adept at tool making. The story included a description of another tribe which did not provide much for a similar tool maker.

    The former tribe was successful and after a few generations years grew in population, expanding into the territory of the other tribe which died out after a few harsh winters.​

    I have long believed that the evolution of a culture which had a division of labor (which requires cooperation among unrelated groups) resulted in the success of Homo Sapiens & their development of a technological culture.

     
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  23. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    By turning our backs on the notion of countries and religions.
     
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