Christians please explain the eating of pork

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  1. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    that is kind of mean . That is what we are talking about in the way of offensive . It does look good . Me German heritage is liken it
     
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  3. Telemachus Rex Protesting Mod Stupidity Registered Senior Member

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    This has probably been mentioned, byut the Jews are in a special covenant with God, and that agreement with Him requires that they follow certain rules. They are not "cursed," they are His "chosen people."

    Christians are not Jews and under a new covenant (a "New Testament") with God, with different rules.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The answer is probably quite simple. The Romans liked eating pork, it was the cheapest meat available.
     
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  7. superstring01 Moderator

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    Did I not say that part?

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  8. superstring01 Moderator

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    And it's damned tasty.

    Bacon!!! Really? It's the stuff of the gods.

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  9. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    He quoted the passages in the new testament that explain why Christians don't give a fuck about pork. Most Christians probably don't even know them. He answered your question exactly. You are looking like a complete fool.
     
  10. arauca Banned Banned

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    Which law ? I believe in the bible there is word of God but not all what is written is the word God, There is written history and some is not very nice .
    Again , the base is love thy God , and love you fellow man as your self.
    What Jesus said , we don't know in what context and to whom he said . We can extrapolate many things and they can burdensome.
     
  11. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    The PROBLEM is NOT finding a verse which makes it legal to eat pork.. The PROBLEM is Jesus breaking the law by teaching against the old law BEFORE the old law was fulfilled.

    According to Jesus 'not a jot shall pass away' until it is all fulfilled- the Christians say the 'fulfillment' (and thus the taking away of the law) was the sinless Jesus who lived by it to the dot....

    The question (and thus the PROBLEM) I raise is that by legalizing pork Jesus broke the law by his own words...

    I'm not asking people to find a verse that says pork is fine- I'm asking people to reconcile the problem that ARISES due to it....

    Its not me who's looking like a fool- it seems no one here understands the problem that is created- and they're just giving me verses which I already know.. Even I quoted in the OP "all is lawful unto you"- I didn't need any other quote to support the idea you can eat pork..

    But if you read the OP- I describe the problems that come out of any such notion. No one is addressing them!

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  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Did Jesus eat pork? Does anyone know?
     
  13. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    So the quote I gave you from Leviticus in which God is speaking himself is not authentic in your eyes?

    How do you choose which parts of the bible are god's word- it may be that the whole NT is not and the OT is?

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  14. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Wow I guess you better kill all the Christians then huh?
     
  15. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus preached to Jews who then became 'Christians' but they were still 'jews'. So can we say that those Christians who are descendants of Jews are still under the law while the Gentile Christians are not... even so..

    The problem is Jesus broke the law. Jesus told his followers to follow it- and if he broke the law he was not sinless on the cross (the salvation is challenged), and the law is NOT fulfilled, which is what Paul quotes as a reason that the law need not be followed (remember PAUL was a JEW!)

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  16. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    Trolling after getting pwned, I know it happens

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  17. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus did not say this, I think. Could be wrong, but I don't remember it.
    Paul definitely said it, but to a specific group, the Corinthians. The people of Corinth in particular, and gentiles extrapolating from that.
    "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive.

    1 Corinthians 10:23
    http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/10-23.htm

    Can you quote Book, Chapter and Verse, so we know which verse we are talking about. Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles. He was not telling Jews to stop obeying Jewish laws.
     
  18. superstring01 Moderator

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    Wait. Did Jesus, himself, break the law? Did he eat pork?

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  19. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus could break the rules because he made the rules. He saw himself as connected to the same source as that which generated the original rules, so he felt he could transcend them and it would not be a transgression. Part of it is also a cultural thing, the Christians wanted to be different than the Jews.
     
  20. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    teaching against the law is breaking the law according to Jesus- I think i quoted that verse with reference before. Anyways I think Captain resolved the issue.

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  21. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    Good Catch!

    I've heard these general arguments but I didn't realize that the quote 'everything is lawful unto you' was just some dude paraphrasing the meaning of a quote as they understood.

    Yep, such a verse doesn''t exit! Thanks, so that resolves it

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    Should have checked on it myself. But it seems it is the Mark and Mathew that people have been quoting where they take it to mean Jesus legalized all foods is the argument.

    So as long as people don't interpret the Mark and Matthew verse to mean the legalization of all foods- I think that would resolve this issue.

    Again nice catch.

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  22. arauca Banned Banned

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    I select things based on Jesus teaching . 2 Commandments 1) Love thy God with all your hearth 2) and love thy fellow man as you self. According all laws to man are based on these two commandment. The rest addition are complementary
     
  23. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    Well anyways, thanks to Captain issue is resolved in my opinion.

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