Cartoon porn kids are people

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  1. w1z4rd Cry the beloved country Valued Senior Member

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    Before I post this information I just thought I would share some personal information. Up until recently, Australia was seen has a good place for Saffies (South Africans) to work for a year or two... or for some families to migrate to.

    This is starting to change for the youth of our nation. Australia seems to be becoming a intellectually hostile place to go. With their censoring of the internet ... and now this:

    A court in Australia has convicted a man for child pornography offences involving pictures of the children from The Simpsons cartoon series having sex

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24767202-2,00.html

    This kinda ruling I would only expect from America and their law system, but it appears Australian Judges need a wake up call as well.

    Do you think this kind of ruling is reasonable or rational?
     
  2. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    While the psychology of paedophilia is rather abstract, this ruling is even more so.

    I guess the crux for me is that nobody was harmed, coerced or abused in the production of the cartoon, and therefore there is no crime.

    I don't see how this could be a crime, it's clearly a parody, and not meant to be arousing, surely? Even so, I'm sure there are far more edgy publications, such as Manga cartoons, which I would think needed more defense than a parody of the Simpsons.
     
  3. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    strange, but then NSW laws are stange anyway. Look at the stupid "annoyance laws" which were struck down by the full bench of the federal court.

    That being said i think this could go to the high court if the guy chose to apeal, i have no idea wether he would win or not though because it depends where the definition of "person" is written and HOW its written
     
  4. w1z4rd Cry the beloved country Valued Senior Member

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    Hentai is the japanese word you are thinking of? Manga as I know it are print cartoons (even if they are in electronic format). Hentai is japanese erotic cartoons. They out of this world weird.
     
  5. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    It is proposed in Britain that any realistic looking (computer or otherwise generated) underage pornography will become illegal.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422595.stm
    This I support.
    The OP I do not.
     
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  6. draqon Banned Banned

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    I agree to the court's decision.
     
  7. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    Don't press the post button repeatedly when the site is having a dud moment.
     
  8. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Manga and Anime both have some edgy content, which is referred to as 'hentai', yeah. Too many school girl types in sailor outfits, and too many demons with reaching tentacles.

    If this Simpsons thing steps over the line, Hentai sure as hell does, unless it carries disclaimers that the characters portrayed are of a certain age, but the whole thing sounds like bullshit to me. If no-one was harmed, coerced or abused, it's weird, and certainly tasteless, but should it be illegal? I'd say no.
     
  9. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Surely pictures of Bart and Lisa screwing are ok.
    They don't mean it do they?

    I hope not. Otherwise the UK Olympics committee is in trouble.
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    Yes. This is really the official logo of the 2012 Olympics.
    If you don't believe me, look it up.

    All Australian medal winners may have their medals confiscated, and be thrown in prison.
     
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  10. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Who exactly gets harmed by computer generated graphics??? We could view it as a safety valve for weirdos....
     
  11. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    I haven't been able to look at that without laughing since I saw it. Surely somebody noticed before it became official?
     
  12. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    What's wrong with cartoons? I don't get it. I thought the point of cracking down on people who view child pornography was to keep children from being abused and/or exploited by people taking pictures of them or forcing/coercing them into sexual situations. But a cartoon does none of these things. There are absolutely no children harmed in the process of drawing a cartoon character. Personally I would prefer a pedophile to look at drawings of children engaged in sexual activities than look at porn with actual children or actually having sex with actual children. Who is harmed in cartoon child pornography? Shouldn't this law include books as well, that mention underage sex?
     
  13. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    We live in a hypocritical world that's why. I suspect money is also involved somewhere. No doubt the makers of the simpsons had something to say on the matter.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7770456.stm
     
  14. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm..the Simpsons went on the air in '89. Doesn't that make Bart and Lisa almost 20 years old?

    Child porn is obviously bad...but come on.
     
  15. orcot Valued Senior Member

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  16. madanthonywayne Mourning in America Moderator

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    This ruling is absurd. The reason child porn is illegal is becaus children must be abused to produce it. With cartoons, that's not the case. Hell, I've seen pop ups for sites featuring cartoon characters having sex. I even went to the site, because I thought it would be funny to see Marge Simpson having sex with Flanders (I don't remember anything about child characters being involved). Sadly, it was a pay site and I never pay for internet content so I didn't see any of the movies. (and they didn't offer any previews).

    Thank God I don't live in Australia!

    I am unaware of any such conviction in the US, by the way. It is absurd, especially for characters such as the Simpsons. If the cartoon characters were ultra-realistic, perhaps you might say it could encourage child molesters, but I really don't think that's the case with the Simpsons.
     
  17. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    Can you believe they paid $1 million for that?
     
  18. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    "seeing it on the internet encourages doing it in real life"? i thought jack thompson was disbarred already.

    just as video games are an outlet for violence, porn is an outlet for sexual energy. what are they going to ban next? any porn that doesnt involve two people clearly portrayed as married doing it missionary?
     
  19. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    Things are getting weirder here. First our delay on investing in the solar energy, our attempt to censor the internet, and now this. I agree with phlogistician, that no one was abused or harmed in the making of this porn, therefore he shouldn't be charged.
     
  20. madanthonywayne Mourning in America Moderator

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    This case gives a whole new meaning to:
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    "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way..."
     
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