Carbon Isotopes

Discussion in 'Chemistry' started by OilIsMastery, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. OilIsMastery Banned

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    Why do vitalist/biogenic retards in the biology and geology communities think a lack of C13 isotope is proof of photosynthesis and biological activity? E.g. here and here.

    Stars totally lacking in C13 have been observed, yet there is no photosynthesis occuring on those stars.
     
  2. andbna Registered Senior Member

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    Trick question, there are no such retards in the examples given; however, you have managed to demonstrated your own illiteracy quite well.

    From the first article. Emphasis mine. To clarify further for you: it never claims what you said it claims. You made a strawman argument.

    Ah look, the second article explained why a lackng of C-13 is indicative of life... but wait, it doesn't say that it prooves life. Congrats, on your second strawman.


    -Andrew
     
  3. OilIsMastery Banned

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    You made no attempt to answer the opening question. Literally no attempt whatsoever.

    Lack of C13 isotope means nothing.
     
  4. pjdude1219 troaty mouth best song ever Valued Senior Member

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    How do you answer a question based of a false premise?
     
  5. OilIsMastery Banned

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    A question is not a premise...:rolleyes:

    Here's a premise that isn't false: lack of C13 isotope means absolutely nothing.
     
  6. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    I guess that they believe that biological processes can distinguish between the isotopes and use more carbon 12 and less carbon 13.
     
  7. pjdude1219 troaty mouth best song ever Valued Senior Member

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    I never said a question was a premise hence i used the phrase based on. Your sources disagree with you about the C13 isotope.
     
  8. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    isnt cabon 13 whats used to do carbon dating because it breaks down faster than cabon 12 because its radio active?

    If thats right then it has nothing to do with wether something is ALIVE or not, it can however TELL you when something was alive because the body (tree, whatever) absorbs both carbon 12 and 13 in the same rate. Then when the thing dies the carbon 13 starts being broken down in comparison to the carbon 12
     
  9. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    You're absolutely right, dude. He misunderstood your statement just as badly as he misunderstood his own source that he linked to!

    This joker has about THE WORST reading comprehension of anyone I've ever seen. Yet he claims to be an investment broker. HAH!!! I wouldn't trust him to invest my pocket change!!!!! :bugeye: He wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between an oil exploration company and an oil production company. Sheesh!!!!!!

    (Before he posts ANYTHING else, I think he should be required to spend a year in a remedial reading class.)
     
  10. Enmos Moderator

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    I love OilIsMastery.. his humbleness and understanding awes me ! :)
     
  11. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    True. Except possibly an idiot that THINKS he's brilliant! And we've got at least two prime examples of that here. One being the OP of this thread and the other who lives in Scotland and thinks he's a scientist! ;)

    (Edit): HA!! That's NOT what I originally quoted and responded to, but it will do. Heh-heh!
     
  12. Enmos Moderator

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    His sort of understanding often goes hand in hand with the kind of humbleness he displays :)


    LOL Shh ! :p
     
  13. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    That's carbon 14. Carbon 13 is stable and I haven't found anything for it to be a product of, either.
     
  14. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    ops my apologises
     
  15. OilIsMastery Banned

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    Why do they believe that is the opening question.

    How so?

    I've never made any such claim. You are making things up again. Please stay on topic and avoid ad hominem fallacies if you are capable of intelligent debate. I'm skeptical.
     
  16. OilIsMastery Banned

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    Asking questions is indeed a kind of humbleness. It's people like you who aren't asking questions who display utter lack of humility.
     
  17. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    A slight - VERY slight mistake - on my part! You claim to be in investment banking AND to be a hedge fund manager. That's very, very close to what I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (In your personal profile in your blog: http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890 )

    And you've shown multiple time here that you cannot read and understand the simplest of things! :bugeye: So you are either a LIAR or have just been given a job by some realtive that feels sorry for you.

    Now... who's the least intelligent between us, eh???? :bugeye:
     
  18. OilIsMastery Banned

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    Once again you have made a factual error: at least now you are aware of it.
     
  19. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    It was simply a mistake of similar terms that mean practically the same thing, dummy!

    Do you deny the rest of it??????????????????????? Your own blog profile says you are LYING through your teeth if you try to deny it. :bugeye:
     
  20. OilIsMastery Banned

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    So let me get this straight, when you make a mistake that makes me a dummy? Please refrain from ad hominem if you are capable of intelligent debate.

    You aren't intelligent enough to determine what truth and lies are. Please address the topic of C13 isotope if you have more than one braincell.
     

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