Who produces data? People who are educated. Where are the people educated? Universities. Universities take money to support, either through endowments or by the government. Educated people are also paid. Research proposals are usually pre-approved. Data does not come from out of a vacuum. It's like the media. There is no such thing as an unbiased media. There is no such thing as unbiased data. It may appear that way to over zealous journalists, or over zealous scientists. . . but it isn't. It all depends on WHAT you decide to study, or WHAT you decide to cover. If certain things remain unstudied, or unreported on, then there are no data, or no information on those topics, are there? A well informed decision can not be made by the public, and the truth can not be arrived at by purposeful intention of the people that are holding the purse strings, yes? You can't "show the data" if the people running the system make full well sure there is no data that is of the proper quality to show. Look at the global warning debate for Christ's sake. It's a case study in obfuscation for ulterior motives. :bugeye: To top that all off. . . if the data does, occasionally exist, the people controlling the system CLOSE down others from doing the research and actually getting the data out there. I DID post some, but did you bother to read it? Probably not. There's all sorts of data and research showing the toxicity of putting Sodium Flouride in our water system, I posted a Harvard study. . . but, of course, I'm sure you didn't bother to look at it. If authority tells us it's safe, it's safe. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!