Can a machine know?

Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by roadblock, Apr 6, 2006.

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  1. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    Yes...if 'being alive' is an emergent property of being human then theoretically 'being alive' could occur as an emergent property in another medium given the right conditions.
     
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  3. mindtrick Registered Senior Member

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    AI is still a primitive technology. We won't see a massive improvement in our shor lives.
     
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  5. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    Even if growth is exponential?
     
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  7. mackmack Registered Senior Member

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    no one really knows until someone builds a real human-level ai to past turings original test.
     
  8. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    And you are 100% sure that I am not a machine?
     
  9. mackmack Registered Senior Member

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    you are a machine. a human machine made form organic material designed by the great creator.
     
  10. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    The great creator being an inherent set of design principles?
     
  11. TheMosaicMan Registered Senior Member

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    Thats one of the most interesting (better yet: potentially useful) ideas I have ever read.
     
  12. TheMosaicMan Registered Senior Member

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    You've a knack for getting to the point.
     
  13. TheMosaicMan Registered Senior Member

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    I have a question for everyone.. I'm not sure its entirely on topic, however since there is a plea for 'definitions' I think it is productive, if not a direct contribution to this discussion.

    Simply.. What is intelligence?

    Checked wikpedia for this and the answers listed are highly unsatisfactory.

    They seem like they're grasping at straws.. it feels intuitively wrong; like there should be a far more simple, very clear cut answer to this. Its bizarre that such a commonly used term that everyone seems to -intuitively- (i.e. you know it when you see it) grasp, at least contextually, should be so difficult to pin down, explicitly.

    I have my own ideas, but I would far prefer to hear other peoples.. suggestions?
     
  14. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    It's a ruse. He's a program I wrote.

    As far as intelligence goes, I think it's something along the lines of:

    The efficient utilization of concepts to direct "thought" in a manner that satisfies one's perception of their survival.

    And like, one's percpetion of their survival can include anything from hair dye to calculus.
     
  15. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    Intelligence is the ability to modify the environments to increase ones fitness.
     
  16. kl5k Registered Senior Member

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    humans are alive because they are squeshy. machines are not alive because they are NOT squeshy.

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