Campaign 2020 media coverage, science forum consideration

Discussion in 'Politics' started by iceaura, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    A thread for the nuts and bolts of how modern US media are setting up to handle modern US politics.
    https://www.vox.com/2019/2/19/18231993/cnn-gop-operative-2020-election-coverage
     
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  3. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    I, like many will be very interested in how the media performs during the campaign. The media has been going through a massive transition, desperate for dollars and desperate for a story . A significant test of integrity IMO.
    Throw into this a mix of high tech hacking/ballot fraud wizardry and you have a potential for high chaos.
    Same here in Australia, it will be very interesting indeed how democracy survives this transitional phase.
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the abandonment of print being a market control model and a culture changed things
    the privatization corporate take-over concept of market cannibalism is a big issue.(one business eating another business to be the only business left)
    because of the privatization and corporate interest expressed through the machine of the media it has removed the professional edge of investigative journalism as a main frame work of media.
    this has inevitably devalued the media form turning more towards the junky-market of pay per click bait.

    it is hard to conceptualize the idea of investigative and creative writing journalism competing with click bait celebrity TV reality nonsense.

    but it is a reality because the junky always goes for the faster fix.

    political coverage has become a pay per content advert.

    you need financial independence to be real.
    everything else is a cheap knock off and that's the way the society starts to relate to it eventually.

    its hard to go against a trend in a hyper corpratised privatised economy/culture.

    the only possible motive for electronic voting is to commit Election fraud
     
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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    As long as we value the secret ballot (the australian ballot) there is no way to guarantee freedom from election fraud.
     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    There are many ways to reduce its likelihood and scale to inconsequential. Failure to do that abandons democracy, sooner or later.

    The media coverage of election fraud - such as the recent North Carolina and Georgia events, or the ongoing gerrymandering operations - will be critical in the 2020 campaigns.
     
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  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    In a related arena: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/20/2020-candidates-social-media-attack-1176018
    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/02/20/democrats-need-to-be-wary-of-social-media-manipulation/
     
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  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    "race to the bottom to have all the power"
    that seems to be the negative side of power & control of authority in systems/ groups / countrys / governments / religions etc...

    which is why the rallying against regulation is such an insidious act of undermining the very base and structure of civilized society.
    yet many people seem to think it is a legitimate moral equity to government emergency services being tax funded by working class as some abstract carrot and stick use of moral polars to symbolize their own need to inject in-congruent ideological models of power & control.

    its like the thief standing in front of the persons house in front of the smashed window while holding the stolen property while saying "no but its what i want".
     
  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    6 companies control 90% of media in the us
    232 media execs control the information fed to 277 million americans

    Their expertise is entertainment and selling people stuff that they do not need.

    They will choose a "candidate" (2 candidates to give people the illusion of choice)and obscure all others.
    And sell the voters on their choice.
     
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  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    That begs the question(s).
    Why eliminate choice in favor of illusion? - for example.
    By what mechanism(s)? - another.
    How was this (relatively new) situation created? - a third.
     
  14. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    boss Tweed (political boss of Tammany Hall circa 1860s-70s)
    "I don't care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating."
    and
    The way to have power is to take it.

    nothing really new here
     
  15. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Noticed over the last week or so, the media WSJ has been heavily opinion-ing that the dems are socialists (communists in disguise) that will tax everything and so on. Seriously tainted and poisonous activity.
    What Americans call socialism to us is really socially balanced capitalism.
    It seems that anything or any one attempting to reduce the economic distance between rich and poor is the devil and evil.
     
  16. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    You mean bothsiders begging the serious questions?
    A question of partisan and one-sided media coverage converted into a vague truism about dirty politics?
    That is indeed familiar. Nothing new about it. Or particularly relevant, except as an example.

    Meanwhile, concerning the thread topic, means and mechanisms in operational reality:
    https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/02/23/all-the-news-fit-to-treat-badly/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: emptywheel/cAUy (emptywheel)
    To emphasize: just this past week. News. Breaking news. Sensational news.

    The three current cabinet members who should be in headlines right now after this week's revelations, hounded by supposedly scandal-driven reporters and the allegedly sensationalizing media,

    with second tier media figure Smollet's trivial and personal mess relegated to passing mention in "News Of The Weird",

    are: Wilbur Ross; Alexander Acosta; Elaine Chao.
    (Ross and Acosta are 8th and 9th, respectively, in the line of Presidential succession. Chao, like a couple of other wives of prominent and powerful Republicans in this government, is much younger than her husband and foreign born).

    A fourth, Ryan Zinke, has already departed but remains largely unprosecuted for reasons that should be matters of well publicized inquiry.
    A fifth, Betsy Devos, deserves billing above Smollet but as more of a continuing story.
     

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