Well last week I finally broke down and bought an XBOX 360 because they really dropped in price now. It was a dilema in our house for a while because they couldn't agree which system to buy. One wanted the Xbox 360 One wanted the Wii One wanted PS3 So anyway I find the labeling on the games confusing. We have the old XBOXsystem and it was more straight forward. When it said 1-4 players, it meant 1-4 ppl could play at the same time against eachother. I got a few games for them that looked like they said 1-4 players but then when they went to play them you couldn't play against eachother. It was geared more to the XBOX LIVE which I don't plan on getting for them right now. They like playing games vs eachother. I got Crash Bandicoot: Crash of the Titans and it is kind of cool because you can play co-op with another person. I actually got into this one myself, and I am not a gamer. I couldn't jump very good so when the other person jumped I just jumped in their knapsack. I also bought Assassins Creed, Halo 3, Call of Duty 3 Are there any good games you can recommend out there that you can play against/ vs other ppl without going on XBOX live?