Biologically, why would a man show interest in other women when married?

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  1. neurogeek Registered Member

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    As my name implies, I am interested in the human condition as well as explanations for certain actions that we take. For this thread I shall be mentioning a peculiar murder case which happened in proximity to my town.

    The murderer was a twenty-nine year old man who managed a factory since the age of twenty-four. He was married for two years, and had been 'trying' for a child for that period of time. Since this was the early 1900's, child labor laws had not yet been founded, so many of his employees were as young as 12 years old.

    A year after marriage, his employees started to complain about his inappropriate advances, which he kept to, despite the reactions to them. The same year, a 12 year old employee came up and testified that he had gotten her pregnant, and also bit her. A year later, he made advances to a 14 year old girl. He would not take no for an answer, so he killed her (and also, bizarrely, bit her in the neck and shoulders). He stated he didn't mean to murder anyone.

    2 years before, this man had a clean record with no history of odd behavior. Usually, future killers show some signs from an early age, but this one did not so I am wondering what could have happened on a scientific level that 'triggered' this behavior.
     
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  3. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Something fishy in your story . I doubt you are 110 years old and you might have a sex problem so you look for a piece and the easy place is the work area and the bad thing you like young girls, but you can intimidate them .

    1 " In proximity of your town
    2 " 1900
    3 Child labor irrelevant
    4 His wife did not satisfy him in bed
    5 he was a manager , got sex by intimidation
    6 Employer treated him for making advancement at the jib
    7 He probable violated the girl 14 years old , for fear of losing his job he murdered her.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Because then he has more offspring.
    Some people are killers, rapists and pedophiles for no scientific reason.
     
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  7. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Nowhere in that post are there any questions and the content of the post does not match the title of the thread. What is your question/point?
     
  8. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Human females have a nearly unique trait that is one of the keys to our species's success: They are capable of copulating when not in estrus, and even when pregnant, nursing, or devoting most of their time and energy to caring for a baby. Very few other mammals can do this; the only one I can name is the dolphin... although this name covers a large number of related species.

    The benefit of this unusual trait is that it encourages men to stay with the mothers of their children, at a time when these mothers can use all the help they can get. For a species that takes more-or-less fifteen years to reach any semblance of maturity (elephants grow up in five years; whales in only two), this is the key to survival--of both the individuals and the species.

    You ask why a married man would show interest in another woman, when a better question would be: why do married men stay home at all, with so many desirable women out there? The answer to that question is that Homo sapiens has some unique instincts that are key to the survival of our species, and monogamy is one. Most men, even those who continue to have sex with other women when there are kids at home, nonetheless have an instinct to help raise the children they sire.

    Before you start telling me about the miserable family situations in our inner cities, consider the fact that our drug laws are highly racist in their drafting and enforcement. For example: white Americans smoke a lot more marijuana than black Americans, yet the majority of Americans in prison for pot are black. This results in a visible deficit of father-figures in the Afro-American community, and in many boys growing up without a father to teach them, by example, to be good husbands and fathers.

    Back on track, our species has yet one more rare trait which also makes it easier for mothers to raise their children: We are able to live healthy and productive lives long after our women go through menopause. This provides a huge population of elders, who can contribute effort (not to mention money and other resources) to the raising of their grandchildren--especially after retirement. We're not the only mammals whose communities include members of three, four or even five generations, but we are members of an elite club that also includes elephants, several other species of apes, some birds and a few other warm-blooded vertebrates.
     
  9. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    For example: white Americans smoke a lot more marijuana than black Americans, yet the majority of Americans in prison for pot are black.

    I don't know where you got that information , beside on % bases or just number , if I remember the ratio of White to black is about 10 to 1
     
  10. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    It was in the Washington Post 3-4 years ago. The bottom line was that the absolute number of Afro-Americans in our jails and prisons for drug crimes only is larger than the absolute number of Euro-Americans incarcerated for the same offenses.

    To a large extent this can be explained by the fact that most dealers are Afro-Americans, and Euro-Americans are content to leave that job to them. They're paying more for their drugs, which they consider a reasonable trade-off for only risking arrest for possession or use, but not for sale--a conviction with a much harsher penalty.
     
  11. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Very likely, it was syphillus.

    There is an episode of the Hugh Laurie / Dr. House series in which an elderly woman starts making "inappropriate" sexual advances toward the good doctor. Dr. House smiles knowingly, eventually curing her of the disease despite her protestations that she enjoys her newfound sexual appetite. Not to wreck or spoil how it plays out, you should probably view this episode. It explains and portrays exactly the sort of sexual behavior about which you are asking.

    Very likely, this specific behavior also explains why the disease was so predominant, like Oliver Sach's description of a fungal disease vector that causes ants with infected brains to climb to topmost blades of grass in order to be more easily eaten by cows, in whose digestive tracts the fungus multiplies and promulgates via cow patties.

    Or cat owner's exposure via cat litter to a similar fungal agent in feline feces that infects their brains and makes them wish to act foolish around and / or own more cats. The same fungus acts similarly on the rodents that are the cat's prey.

    Enough salient examples?
     
  12. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I don't believe the individual have to be sick of infected . In my youth I was infected several time , and a friend had syphilis. We did not go crazy, when you are infected you definitively stay away from sex. until you get cured . The problem here in this society which pretend to be so puritanical . I country where prostitution is not prohibited , man himself a relief by going to a buthello, he does not have to force a female to have sex and the hide . If his wife does not please him , burthello are the second choice and he can continue have his family life.
     
  13. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The word is spelled "bordello." It's Italian.

    It's widely used in English-speaking countries, but we have our own English word: "brothel."
     
  14. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    You were quite right!

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    This was a sockpuppet of Gabbysheller, a well-known internet troll who specialises in wasting the time of people on science forums with ridiculous stories.
     
  15. Edont Knoff Registered Senior Member

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    Biologically it is good to have children with many partners, since this way more gene mixes come up in the population (higher genetic diversity). More mixes mean a higher chance that at least one of them is good and will survive, e.g. a desease that kills most of the others.

    This applies to both women and men, though. The bias is that women have to take the cost of pregnancy (which can be fairly high if resources are scarse). It is debatable though, if it really makes much of a difference - for a women it is also good to have children from several fathers if they want at least one to survive - each child will have a different gene mix, and so the chances are better that one mix is good, instead of having all children from one partner.
     
  16. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    He'll fit right in here, then.
     
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  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, Gaiagirl/Frank Baker/Gabbysheller etc is a strange character. Seems to have something of the animus against science of MR, or River, say, but a compulsive liar and sockpuppet into the bargain. Possibly a psychiatric case.
     
  18. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    From TimoJin Post #2
    NeuroGeek did not claim to be contemporary with the events. He only claimed that it happened in a town nearby to where he lived.

    When I read his Post, I assumed he was referring to some historical account of the murder.​

    BTW: Some types of psychotic behavior do not manifest prior to the late teens, although they usually occur prior to age 29.
     
  19. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Except it was all lies anyway. Gaiagirl = Frank Baker = Gabbysheller = neurogeek just makes implausible stuff up and tries to waste the time of people on science forums by getting them to take it seriously. That's why James has banned him, (although it is not showing up yet on the main screen).
     

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