And the kiddies do seem to have gathered around. Kind of like ghost stories. Many people have views that I disagree with, sometimes vehemently. So, how do we respond? Isn't insulting somebody by calling him a 'retard' kind of like insulting somebody by calling him a 'faggot'? In both cases the suggestion seems to be that mentally disabled people and homosexuals are lesser people, so that associating somebody with them is demeaning. Even the fundies don't typically lay it on that hard. They say that they don't hate the sinner, just the sin. Hard to say. I expect that he believes most of what he says. And we have this thread, with no purpose other than to ridicule and demean somebody, a hate-thread directed against somebody who is identified as a hater, filled with the same self-rightous moral judgement and condemnation that he is excoriated for displaying. Hypocrisy is a hard thing to recognize sometimes, let alone eradicate. It's that 'sin' thing, I guess. (Those of us who don't believe in sin might call it one of the less pleasant aspects of human nature.)
Pat Robertson: (On his knees, hands clasped, squinting his eyes) Lord, Lord, tell me wit ah should do. Lord: Support Obamacare, give up your guns, and vote Democrat. Pat Robertson: Flee from me you demon devil counterfeit!
Aren't most people like that? While many of Sciforums' self-appointed moral guardians on the left don't believe in God, they are still strict moralists, with a strong motivation to praise good and to condemn evil. How do they discern one from the other? With their subjective intuition, basically. And (surprise!) their intuition seems to typically be that good and evil conform almost perfectly with the boundaries of their own partisan political identification. I doubt if Robertson's a whole lot different. It's hard to imagine what evidence or argument could pry a person's moral intuition/sense of God's will apart from his or her political identity, when the two have become as closely identified as they are in contemporary society. Maybe it's always been like that. History is filled with holy wars and bloody utopian revolutions. There always seems to have been a sense that good can only bloom into a paradisical Kingdom if the righteous ones can somehow find a way to get rid of all of the evil ones. Maybe it's the idea that society can somehow be more thoughtful, diverse, tolerant (and sane) that's the unrealistic dream.
I was surprised to see a YouTube clip the other day of Pat Roberson talking about how ridiculous the Young Earth proposition is. I would have figured that would be his group. William (snake oil saleman) Lane Craig isn't a Young Earther either. I guess miracles do exist Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
A guy I work with is a YEC. Other than that he is pretty intelligent. He is the definition of compartmentalized thinking.