Best Ghost evidence you have come across

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by HawkI, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Neat. But you didn't describe its enivirons very well. At first I thought it was a pattern on a wall. But "moving in the air" suggests it was free-floating.

    How far were you from it?
    How far was it from nearby surfaces/objects?
    Etc.
     
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  3. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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    Kids blowing bubbles somewhere?
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Nothing like a compelling first hand experience of the paranormal/glitch in the matrix. Skeptics will probably just handwave it away as an optical illusion or something.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Logical fallacy: attempt at poisoning-the-well - "To commit a preemptive ad hominem attack against an opponent. That is, to prime the audience with adverse information about the opponent from the start, in an attempt to make your claim more acceptable or discount the credibility of your opponent’s claim."


    This skeptic has asked for more details.
     
  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't provide adverse information about skeptics. I just predicted what they will probably do based on all their past behavior.
     
  9. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not entirely convinced that it wasn't an optical illusion. It's conceivable that the cat was looking at some other moving object, a fly or something. When I looked the same way the cat seemed to be looking, perhaps my eyes acted weird.

    Like I said, I don't know what it was.
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Seems too much of a coincidence that the cat would be reacting to the same patch of space you saw the distortion in. Have you ever seen anything like that before or since? It's doubtful your eyes would only malfunction like this once, if they were malfunctioning. I've seen all sorts of illusions with my aging eyes ranging from stars in my peripheral vision and a blue flash to a full fledged scintillating scotoma. But these things move or disappear with eye movement, so I know they're not actually "there".
     
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  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    This is footage taken by a dad in the car with his kids of a park they were going to visit. One of the swings is swinging wildly with no wind present to cause it. Notice the other swings right beside it. No swinging of those. And noone present to cause the swinging. The man says it was happening for around 2 minutes and the swing doesn't slow down or stop. This occurrence was strange enough to keep the family scared and inside their car. Could it be a string or wire attached to the swing? No...no string is visible and there's noone around to pull the string. Why would they? Is this a case of a ghost moving something? You decide...

     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    There's a wind blowing. You can see the other swings moving gently in the wind. The swing that is moving a lot has a flat back, and is seeing flutter. It's a type of aeroelasticity that can cause dynamic instability of objects seeing airflow; this manifests as large oscillations from small amounts of wind. For example, flutter knocked down the Tacoma Narrows bridge from nothing more than a 40mph wind (a windspeed far below its design limits of 110mph.)

    (I know you don't really care; this is for other people reading.)
     
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  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No..that gentle of a wind would not cause the wild swinging of that one swing. Plus it's heavier than the other swings. And it is moving side to side, opposite the direction it's flat back would've been pushed. There is no physical explanation for this.

    A 40 mph wind with higher gusts is pretty strong. It makes the swinging of the bridge totally feasible given it's suspended surface area.
     
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  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    1. We don't know it's heavier simply because its larger. That's speculation. It's a completely different type of swing; there's no call to assume it's the same material.
    2. Even the most gentle of winds often set up a harmonics in swinging objects. These kinds of strange swing sightings have been seen before.
    3. Harmonics from compound pendulums (it has two attachment points) are complex. Conversion from pitch harmonic to yaw harmonic is quite common.
     
  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes we do. That swing is definitely heavier than the other swings, which are barely moving. I've been around swings like that before. I know how heavy they feel.

    Not that violent of a swing sideways from that gentle of a wind. The other lighter swings would have been swinging too if it was the wind. But they don't.
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    One could very much predict your own gullible behaviour, and I add, with far more accuracy.
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No you don't.

    They don't because they haven't achieved the same harmonic.

    As someone who spends most of his summers sailing, I spend a lot of time observing wind and how wind interacts with things - in particular, light winds moving light objects. because that's what we're trained to look for to spot puffs that we use to sail. Things that are light and have a large surface area - along with multiple attachment points - very commonly acquire what appears to be a mind of their own. Every sailor sees it all the time. It's nothing special.
     
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  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I do. Clearly it is made of plastic and hence too heavy to be tossed around by the gentle wind of that day. There are no mysterious harmonics to explain this.

    This is not a light object like a sail. It is a large plastic swing swinging sideways violently..There's simply not enough wind to account for this.

    But to be fair, I will entertain the remote possibility that the mere puff of air required to open and slam a firehose compartment door might also, once in a blue moon, build up to the sort of wild swinging we see in this video. Air can do amazing things folks. Just believe.
     
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  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And there you have it.
     
  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Which is exactly the same as saying a mere 40mph wind could not cause a wild swinging, and eventual destruction, of a massive, steel and concrete bridge.
    Weight is a factor that would tend to CAUSE this. In fact, the heavier it is, the higher Q the mechanical system has - and the easier it is to get uncontrolled flutter. And the lower the overall frequency of oscillation.

    Also, if you had the wind hitting it from the front, you wouldn't get flutter - it would just move backwards. But since you are hitting it with air from the side, it's an airfoil. It tilts one way slightly because the seat catches some air - and the airfoil generates lift. Then the seat swings out of the air and it tilts back slightly the other way - and the airfoil generates lift the other way. Meanwhile, when it is generating lift, it's also generating more drag. (The technical term is induced drag.) That moves it slightly to the side. Then the lift stops and it swings back. Do all that for 15 minutes and you get some very violent motion.

    Again, just like that bridge.
    Yep. Exactly what you would see with flutter.
     
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  22. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Shaped like an airplane wing now is it? Why stop there? Why not incorporate the dynamics of the plane's whole jet engine into the gentle breeze moving over the plastic swing? Perhaps it is propelled by the alternating pressures of the flutter to fly and defy gravity, constrained only by the tug of its chains. I mean, while we're making up shit, why not go all the way? Surely no engineering principle must be spared to banish the possibility of ghosts from your world.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not a surprising reaction. You hallucinate transparent dead people walking around everywhere. It's not a great leap for you to hallucinate jet engines attached to everything that moves.

    This is precious. You purport to believe that a thing exists unless and until it can be proved otherwise.

    I say purport because we know you're just yanking our chain.
     

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