Atheism, theism and jelly beans

Discussion in 'Religion' started by James R, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Thus Spoke:

    It might save time later?

    Maybe you can translate for me.

    All very interesting, but not the topic of this thread. Perhaps you should start a separate one.
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    davewhite04:

    Gentiles? You think the Jews have the inside running on faith?

    Do you think that faith is a valid path to knowledge? (There's still a thread on that topic somewhere on the forum.)

    What am I meant to see when I look at those things?

    Ah, another one who knows all about what I believe!

    Have you ever thought to ask, rather than assuming?

    Useful for what purpose?

    You have yet to convince me that faith is more valuable than skepticism.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So we're agreed; we all have our personal beliefs that work for us, without needing them to be objectively applicable to anyone else.
     
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  7. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.

    It depends how people translate it. Some set their boundaries by declaring a "mind of god", scientists i mean. good ones. If someone doesn't believe they have no boundaries.

    It's not what you believe it's what you don't believe. So what?

    You've either got it or you haven't. Same with skepticism. Always be skeptic.

    EDIT: I cannot understand some questions, maybe rephrase them.
     
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  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    It's okay. I can't understand some of your answers, either. Probably better to stick to the thread topic.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, i like jelly beans.
     
  10. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, why not? Do you live in the USA, I guess yes but I don't like guessing!
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No way man. I won't even visit there till the Orange Oompaloompa is gone. (Also, you seem to have figured out the quote feature.

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  12. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Hey!! That's condemning people on the basis of their skin colour. The oompa loompas are honest, hard-working, talented people, and they would have a song about Trump the likes of which no late-show host can match.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I apologize for besmirching the honest and hard-working people of Oompaloompa.
     
  14. Sancho Banned Banned

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    Sancho likes jellybeans. everyone likes jellybeans.
     
  15. Slartibartfast Registered Member

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    What an absurd comment to make, perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the meaning of the word analogy.
     
  16. Slartibartfast Registered Member

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    Atheists existed long before gods were invented.
     
  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Not much competition, in the US in anyway.
     
  18. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Really... where?
     
  19. Slartibartfast Registered Member

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    Planet Earth. Ever been there?
     
  20. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    How could they have? There has to be an ism before it can have ists.
    Before the invention of pipes, nobody was a smoker, but nor was anybody a 'non-smoker' - simply because the word would have had no meaning. Before the invention of gods, nobody was a theist or an atheist. It would mean the same as unchomulchingulist -
    until somebody popularizes chomulchingulae, you can't identify with either side of the concept.
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No, I checked.
    Atheists can be defined as having a lack of belief in God or gods.
    Therefore it is valid to say that, before gods came along, atheism was the default state.

    It doesn't require knowing about a thing to not have a belief in it.
    It doesn't require a label of a thing to exist for the concept to apply.

    It doesn't require 'identifying with'. It doesn't even require knowing about it at all.
     
  22. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    ism: A distinctive doctrine, system, or theory. ..

    You may not believe a whole lot of things that have never yet been articulated, but you cannot be called not-yet-ist.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Does a witch doctor have to identify as an herbalist to be labelled an herbalist?
    Do ancient Fijians have to identify as cannibals to be cannibalistic?
     

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