Artificial Intelligence

Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by Norsefire, Jul 5, 2008.

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  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    We don't need them to get proof for a soul.

    Let us use only ourselves; do we have a soul? I do not know. I'd like to think we do.
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    How would you describe it and then prove it exists if it does.
     
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  5. Enmos Staff Member

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    That's fine, for you. I have no problem with you believing we have a soul.
     
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  7. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It doesn't necessarily have to mean a soul in a religious sense, but rather, I think we all have some sort of life energy. Call it a soul, call it The Force, whatever you call it, I think there is something like that.
     
  8. Enmos Staff Member

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    Complex organization ?
     
  9. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    i think myths and legends can be called history books because they contain history.

    the soul is mentioned in several hundred myths. why would they mention it in every religion if there's not some truth in it?

    it's also easy to see what is figurative and what is literal. but if you can't see it, read what the theosophists say. they agree with me about almost everything, so they obviously know what they're talking about.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    So the Bible is now going to be a history book??
     
  11. Enmos Staff Member

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    Dragons appear in several hundred myths.. so do dwarves and pixies etc.
    Where are they ?
     
  12. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    good question. dwarves may have existed as real physical people. you've probably heard of Homo floresiensis. as for dragons and pixies, they are the same kind of spirit entities which in our modern society manifest in the appearance of UFO's (flying saucers) and aliens.
     
  13. Enmos Staff Member

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    So according to you ANY mythical creature really existed (or still exists) ?
     
  14. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    no, many of them are just metaphorical. like the unicorn and centaur. the dragon might refer to some prehistoric animal like a dinosaur (humans already existed back then). but usually the dragon too is a just metaphor. the dragon is closely related (and often identical) to the serpent, which is a real creature, but it's used as a metaphor in the bible etc.

    but this has nothing to do with A.I. so we shouldn't talk about it.
     
  15. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Humans weren't around during the age of Dinosaurs
     
  16. kmguru Staff Member

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    Yes. You will know when you interact with it....in the next room or next continent....
     
  17. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Here's a good article that brings up my points: how can we determine real self awareness from simply good programming to mimic self awareness?

    http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/computers become self aware.htm
     
  18. kmguru Staff Member

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    "So the programmes get better and computers start to act is if they are smart, but in reality they are still merely following pre-programmed instructions."

    So, if the computer programs itself like humans do, then would that work?
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    There is a good book that can provide insight in to artificial intelligence and super human intelligence.

    How Brains Think: evolving intelligence then and now - William H. Calvin

    It is worth reading. Any one wants to comment and discuss the book, start a new thread and do so. This would be interesting as I am using some of the ideas for a new project.
     
  20. Khalid Gidaya Khalid Gidaya Registered Senior Member

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    We can not replace Human brain with a machine

    Artificial Intelligence (AI) has started its way from knowledge base systems where basic information is read from a database. As AI tries to get smarter the need for bigger and bigger knowledge database became a must (Problem!) then comes the Neural Network- A system that does not depend on database but learns to identify things by training. However as you employ more and more cells into this NN system, it becomes unpredictable as to what it is going to learn. We humans have roughly about 100 billion neurons in our body. Think about using NN with 1 Million cells and the kind of training you can give provide and the results you can expect----Crazy! The other direction, you wanna try statistical methods--GOOD LUCK!

    Oh! you know what? a new research promises through brain signal wave analysis, robots could well be integrated into reading human brain and perform actions. But forget about a thinking robot with emotions. May be don't give up but I don't see a 100% safe, smart, robot at this time. May be my Grand-G-G-10^-10G-Grand child will see a vision.

    For now, just appreciate Allah/God for what he gave us.
     
  21. kmguru Staff Member

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    Is it like the wrap drive started from the space shuttle...kinda analogy?

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  22. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Don't humans also follow pre-programmed instructions? The main difference is that human actions are just too complicated to be predicted exactly. A sufficiently large computer brain would be the same.
     
  23. kmguru Staff Member

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    It is more like the Operating System. Everything else is built on top of it. That is why if a human loses the input early on in the childhood, then that person does not recover well...a born blind person receiving sight at age 50 would be miserable in society etc....
     
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