Are you for or against spanking kids ?.

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  1. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Are you for or against spanking kids and why ?.
     
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  3. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Against, with the ability and right to do it, when they inevitably try that ONE time to fuck with you. It should not need to be done more than once if done properly. It is probably only necessary to do it to the oldest once, in fact.
     
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  5. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    My kids or other people's kids?
     
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  7. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Children should be restrained with force...not struck with force.

    Theres always duct tape if necessary...

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  8. mike47 Banned Banned

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    To discipline your kids .
     
  9. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Nay, spanking is bad once the kids knows why you are spanking them. I myself was a very badly behaved child, I was spanked for it, and I still was a badly behaved child. Even when I was done crying, I'd scream out "That DIDN'T hurt!!" like a persistently annoying crow, even though it did hurt, usually a lot. Then I'd get spanked again. Then I'd scream again. Why? Because I knew it drove my parents nuts. Being spanked made me want to cause more disruption, not less.

    That is because I knew that when I was spanked, it was because my parents were angry for things that I did and were releasing that anger back onto me. Children are smarter than people know, and they know when adults are motivated by emotional self-gratification rather than concern for a child's discipline.
     
  10. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    Against.

    Violence is wrong, especially against kids where there is a huge imbalance of power. If your kids are that out of control then you've done a poor job parenting and hitting them will only worsen their discipline. Kids behave well voluntarily if you raise them correctly.
     
  11. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I was never spanked by my parents. I don't know if it's good or not, probably depends on the kid.

    I remember I had to babysit my little brothers when I was young (like 19 or so they were around 11-12).
    I had this system: Do what I tell you to do, or... get a face first swirly and I don't flush first so you better hope it's clean ...

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    yeah, those two were Satan's little helpers - but I found that technique worked pretty good, it was a 1 step learning process, once they realized I was bigger and could stuff their head under the water fairly easily ... .. anyway, yeah, that worked well

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    hahaha....
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I was never spanked, so I think its good not to spank kids.
     
  13. Enmos Staff Member

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    I was against, but this made me doubt..
     
  14. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Only if they hit me first and they were smaller than me!

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    No, I really do not think hitting a child is a very smart thing to do, there are many other ways in which to dicipline a child much better and lasting longer so they won't forget what they did wrong. To teach a child a lesson hitting them doesn't always work and sometimes it only creates more problems with them.
     
  15. Acitnoids Registered Senior Member

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    I have no children of my own but I have learned that kids get hit for one of two reasons.
    1) Discipline
    2) Alpha behavior
    I'm all for a parents right to discipline their children as they see fit (alpha behavior included) though I find it hard to watch a kid get slapped around just to "teach them who the boss is". That being said I've seen some little shits that needed a good thrashing (disrespecful twits) but that's probably due to my own alpha behavior. My definition of discipline has to do with education. If you tell your child not to play in the street and you find him/her playing in the street, I think you would be perfectly justified in doling out a few lashes because the consequences of not listening to you are so much greater.
     
  16. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    I'm against it, for reasons better explained by WillNever and Xerxes than me.

    Do we use violence as discipline in any other setting? No. If you're at school you get stuck cleaning up or helping out with shitty jobs as punishment. (called "detention".) If you're an an after school activity you simply get told to go outside for a while to calm down and if you don't quit your behaviour you're asked to leave. And so on.

    Why then should a parent have the luxury of simply slapping a kid?
     
  17. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    If it's effective in altering your child's bad and/or dangerous behavior then I'm all for it. If isn't effective then I'd advise parents to look for a better method. Whatever the method of discipline parents decide to use they need to instill fear in their child. Becuase if your child doesn't fear your wrath (It doesn't have to be pain related it could be as simple as the fear of letting their parents down) they'll take you for a ride. I think the problem many parents I know make is trying to be their kids' friends all of the time, but that doesn't lead to respect or good behavior it just opens up plenty of oppurtunities for children to take advantage and be little demons aka spoiled brats.
     
  18. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Good God not this debate again.............

    How many times have we had this one now?
     
  19. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    Some of the kids i went to school with should have been spanked. No respect for anyone.
     
  20. mike47 Banned Banned

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    This is the first one I saw .
    How long have been on this site ?.

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    Anyway I have asked the question because there are some kids who really do nearly whatever they want and they have no manners . Some parents told me that their hands are tied up because the laws are tough and always with the kids . So the parents want to discipline their kids but in some Cities it is against the law . But seriously if the kid is bad at home, bad at school and bad with his mates something should stop him or her . Schools are suffering from bullying, coaches are having hard time coaching sports . Isn't it time the government should let the parents take the responsibility on how to discipline their kids ?!. Children aid societies see kids as a commodity the more they seize the more work they have and the more their pockets get fatter with pay cheques.....

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  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    true.

    i dont see anything wrong with it. that is if the parent is not abusive or sadistic about it. example: kid runs in street, mom spanks kid to get the message across. no big deal...get over it alre4ady.

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  22. John99 Banned Banned

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    best to use a belt or a yard stick so you dont hurt your hand though.


    ah ha ha haaaa.
     
  23. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Mike, since you wanted my opinion as per your PM here it goes

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    .............But I have stated it many times on this subject.

    Well some parents let their toddlers rule the house from a very young age. You need to nip the bad behavior in the bud and make sure they know you will not tolerate such behavior.

    I NEVER had an issue with my kids acting up or causing a scene when we went out shopping or went to a restaurant. Even today when we go out to a restaurant the waiter/waitress usually comment on how mannerly they are and that it is rare to see.

    I spanked both my boys........the youngest one once and the older one twice and that's it. They also got sent to their rooms and I took things away from them. (toys privileges) Apparently they learned from their spanking and knew I would not tolerate tantrums. Even when they were quite young they would look at me when they saw other kids screaming and throwing tantrums at the store. They knew I would NEVER tolerate such a spectacle. Or the parents who will give in and buy the kid a toy if they promise to shut up, BIG MISTAKE. Those kids have those parents wrapped around their fingers. Instead take the kid firmly out of the store and tell them the shopping trip is over and next time they are going to stay home with dad when mommy goes out because they can't behave themselves.

    So when it comes to spanking, I think sometimes when they are young it is needed OCCASIONALLY if they just won't listen and are getting out of hand. They need to know that you mean business.

    I was hit a lot as a kid, for stupid things. So ppl who say that a child that was spanked as a child will automatically turn out to be an abuser are wrong.
    Sure some will, but their are many who will also go in the opposite direction and realize that their parents did not have to spank to the extreme and will change the cycle when they are parents, like I did.

    Another point....Parents need to take more responsibility and stop pawning their kids off at day cares as soon as they leave the womb! Take a few yrs off and spend the time with your kid and teach them right from wrong properly. Don't leave it to someone who really doesn't give a shit how your kid turns out, they are just there for a paycheck. They will never get the love and attention a parent can give through the very important toddler years where you start molding them into decent kids.
     
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