Are sexual fetishes healthy? Just?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Saven, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. Saven Registered Member

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    Quotation from an anti crush video article:

    "It begins with a close-up of a guinea pig lying spread-eagled on the floor, each of its tiny legs fastened in place by sticky tape. The camera slowly pulls back to show that a woman, seen only from the knees down, is pacing around the stricken creature in bright red stilettos. Her voice is soft and low: 'You are my victim. Are you frightened, little man? You know that your destiny is under my heels...'

    Squeals of pain ring out as the sharp point of one stiletto is brought down on each leg in turn, shattering the bones. Next, the creature's back is crushed under a toe, cigarettes are stubbed out on its fur and hip and shoulder bones are systematically trampled and broken until, finally, the woman kills it by driving her heel through its skull. The torture has lasted almost 30 minutes.

    Known as 'crush videos' or 'animal snuff movies', such chinese-made films occupy the cross-over point between animal cruelty and extreme fetishistic pornography."


    Anyone ever hear of this sick crappola? Due to a sexual fetish in China, thousands of Chinese men and women collaborate in order to produce and sell these videos, which are banned in most civilized parts of the world -- but not in China! As far as I understand it, these videos feature Chinese women who stomp on insects, fruit, and tubes of toothpaste... and then work their way up to small animals such as gerbils, reptiles, rabbits, cats and dogs. The fetish is known as a "crush fetish," and it's one of the most depraved things I've ever heard of.

    My question is, do you think it's justified for people to act in this way in order to fulfill sexual desire? Some fetishes are weird... but is it right to repress them? Personally, I never even knew about this stuff until I heard about an outfit called "squish productions." Personally I can't even imagine how they live with themselves after performing these acts.

    The article about the "kitten killers" and what two of them look like. Warning: some of the images inside the articles can be traumatic.

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/crushvideo.asp
    http://www.chinasmack.com/pictures/kitten-killers-return/
     
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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    "justified"? whatever works.
     
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  5. takandjive Killer Queen Registered Senior Member

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    Hurting someone or something is never okay. Sex with anything that is not a consenting adult is never okay. Anything else goes.

    If you have fantasies about doing this kind of shit, either get help or live it out in a healthy way. Go to a butcher's and get a humanely slaughtered chicken. Killing an animal so brutally is just morally unforgivable.
     
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  7. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    And that's sexually aousing? Strange but I also thought the whole Crash thing was strange.

    I dont think its right but I would probably weakly oppose it. There's enough strange behaviour among human beings to worry about this too much at the moment. Lets be glad that it isn't very stimulating for too many people
     
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  8. takandjive Killer Queen Registered Senior Member

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    Again, this veers off into another thing I don't get.
     
  9. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    I guess the guy imagines he's 'the frightened little guinea pig' :shrug:
    Who's destiny is under her heels.
     
  10. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    What Tak said. Sex with anything other than a CONSENTING ADULT is never, ever acceptable.
     
  11. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't sound like there's any actual sex going on here. It's just an animal cruelty video.
     
  12. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    No it isn't "justified" for anyone to do such sick and disgusting things to animals.

    You control your desires if you are in balance with yourself. Some fetishes are just fine like a foot fetish for example.
     
  13. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    I would have no hesitation to shoot that woman.
     
  14. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    "My question is, do you think it's justified for people to act in this way in order to fulfill sexual desire? Some fetishes are weird... but is it right to repress them? Personally, I never even knew about this stuff until I heard about an outfit called "squish productions." Personally I can't even imagine how they live with themselves after performing these acts."

    I don't think actions such as these can ever be justified. IF you kill an animal for food, clothes, for some purpose, then it can be justified. But this, this is just downright cruel.

    This just further proves to me that there is no universal law of ethics and morality, and some people are just completely ignorant of other people and living things.

    I am not an animal rights activist but this kinda shit makes me mad.
     
  15. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think the people who enjoy such visuals are looking for a justification or feel the need to be jusified, they are simply getting off on some twisted turn on.

    Read this chris

    http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neur...b3/Solano.html

    Oli had posted it in another thread and it explains this kind of lack of conscience or skewed moral or ethic outlook...or lack thereof in this case.
     
  16. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Yes you would. Feeling moral outrage and being ready & willing to kill are two different ball games.
     
  17. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    takandjive

    i agree with you, if people want to hurt eachother for sexual pleasure and they both consent then good for them.

    however this is as wrong as pedophilia and anyone engaged in it deserves LONG jail terms
     
  18. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    No, he wouldn't; and I don't blame him.


    This is rather disturbing. I am by no means an animal activist and, if it benefits mankind, I do think it is acceptable to take advantage of animals. However this is absolutely unnecessary and cruel.
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    well said norsefire.
     
  20. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    I think she has a point norse. For one, killing someone for killing others feels hypocritical to me.
     
  21. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    There is nothing wrong with killing (apart from the legal issues). It is why you kill that makes it "right" or "wrong"
     
  22. takandjive Killer Queen Registered Senior Member

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    Moral relativism is cute up to a point. You've exhausted that point. Look, I don't want an animal to suffer unnecessarily, but killing that person doesn't give us any answers. You think you've shown anyone anything, except given a bad impression of actual animal rights activists?
     
  23. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not advocating anything, I'm simply saying that I wouldn't care if that person did indeed pay.

    Moral relativism is the reality of reality....deal with it.
     

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