Are religions that use military power instead of moral authority and persuasion to convert us, worth

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  1. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Are religions that use military power instead of moral authority and persuasion to convert us, worthy of us?
    I was reading of my Gnostic Christian history, --- which grew itself without violence and with moral authority, --- and noted that both Christianity and Islam have both grown themselves through military conquest as compared to moral authority gained by persuasion.

    We have had to suffer many Holy Wars, Inquisitions and jihads instead of those religions winning us over by good deeds and a better moral code.

    Both Islam and Christianity say they respect Jesus and he said that we would recognize his people by their good deed, not war, so I think that Jesus would condemn both Christianity and especially Islam, given that they are both homophobic and misogynous religions who refuse to grant gays and women full equality. Christianity is slowly moving to equality while Islam is not.

    Further, most religious laws have been bested by secular humanist laws, thanks to equality provisions and have already rejected the laws of those immoral Gods and their religions.

    Given that violence instead of a better moral code has been used to grow Christianity and Islam, should moral people reject both Islam and Christianity as unfit to convert us to their religions?

    Regards
    DL

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  3. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    God all mighty has no reason to fight.
     
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  5. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Moral people should reject Islam. Judaism, and Christianity (including gnostic Christianity), but not because of how they grew.
     
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  7. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Nice that you know what a God is thinking even as Jesus said he came to bring war and not peace.

    Regards
    DL
     
  8. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Strange that you would put Gnostic Christianity, which has a moral ideology and is anathema to Christianity under your brush of the religions with immoral ideologies.

    Care to show why?

    Regards
    DL
     
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