Are all soldiers like the Nazis?

It says the brookings institution estimates this number. Do you believe a organization that is based in washington dc is correct? I don't remember them being in iraq or afghanistan.

And there was number. 9/20 key leaders killed by drones.

 

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I usually believe the victims over the perpetrators. Kinda like in the case of the Nazis.

Especially when the official policy is not to maintain records. That reeks of dishonesty right there.

Can you imagine an official government policy of not counting victims in national crimes?

 

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sam?

 

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The Nazis were following orders and if they received different orders they would have acted differently . That is my concern with the army : they follow orders and not their conscience which means maybe they have no conscience to start with .

 

Enmos:

Sorry I consider it free thoughts, not an issue of justice or morality, just an observation of what it means to be a soldier. I'm merely making observations on patterns of behaviour here.

Its your call.

 

I think it's very much an Ethics thread.
'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' it is then.

 

Isn't that true for all soldiers?

Ours is not to question why, ours is but to do or die?

 

No, I don't just imagine these things.

Official policy? Where is the policy letter, and who signed it?

 

“We don't do body counts”. General Tommy Franks

"We don't do body counts on other people," Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said in November 2003, when asked on "Fox News Sunday"

Or you could correct me instantly by providing the official records; I would love to see them.

 

Special forces huh... I don't know of special forces operations or what they encounter. So I have no comment.

So, a predator which gathers aerial intel gets bad ground intel and kills civillians in the process. This does sound like an army thing. But, I don't see the evidence.

 

That could easily be out of context. A policy is written in DoD standards. Inproper letterheading makes it invalid. A quote from a general definitely isn't a policy.

 

Feel free to show me the records at any time I want you to prove me wrong .

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So, you've never served? I figured you knew a ton about soldiers. How they are robotic and how they follow orders and such. Guess I had you all wrong. I guess you don't know nothin' about the military huh?

 

Do I need to have served with the Germans to know what they did was wrong? Do I need to have served in Iraq and Afghanistan to know what they are doing is wrong?

 

How can I show you something you made up?

 

You cannot. You can show me I am wrong by showing me the real records

 

Are you implying nazis were robots?

 

I'm not implying all soldiers are, I'm stating it. They follow orders to kill other human beings. Are you claiming they want to do this?

Here is an experiment that may interest you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

 

So is this why you won't show me they exist? Because of a policy you made up that apparently exists in the military makes you look correct.

Well if we just made stuff up you could make anyone look bad, which tends to be the problem here. I do not have to prove the document exists. You do. I am not going to go on a wild goose chase because you made up a document and refuse to prove it exists.

 

Actually I'm claiming they don't do body counts ie the records don't exist.

If you claim they are doing body counts then there should be official records of deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan

What is confusing you?