are all americans illegal immigrants?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by EmptyForceOfChi, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    OMFG!!! These people get a gvmt house given to them (a HOUSE not an apartment), a free gvmt check every month, free medical care, and a free college education.
    I have seen houses with the floors ripped out because they drank the money needed for fire wood. Gvmt checks are spent on booze which is why they resort to selling their food stamps. They quit going to college because its 'tradition' to get there when they get there because time has no meaning, so class start times have no meaning.
    The Navajos took what they had, built casinos and are doing well. They quit using 'tradition' as an excuse to fail.
    Me and my future generations are already helping them. Our taxes pay for their gvmt check. They and their future generations can help themselves.
     
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  3. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    As I have never traveled to an Indian reservation, I cannot confirm what you have stated with my own experience. I have heard that many Indian tribes have established casinos on their territory as that is the only way for them to make a livelihood on a barren land. The fact that many of the Indian men have become addicted to alcohol is very disheartening for me, because this is one of the sights of intense poverty. This is also common in many poor communities in the larger cities, and particularly among blacks.
     
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  5. Dark520 Rebuilt Registered Senior Member

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    The only reason that drunks are in poverty is because they use all their money on booze and become poor.
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    And yet, all around those Indian lands, white men have taken the same "barren land" and have made it profitable. Hmm?

    Isn't it odd to you that you don't see the same kinds of slums among whites? And if the ratios are correct, then there should be many, many more drunken, addicted white slums as there are Indian and Black slums. But there ain't, are there? Now don't that make you wonder??

    Baron Max
     
  8. Faustus Registered Member

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    No.

    You seem to forget that there are millions of legal immigrants living in America.
    Yeah, and it's up to us to learn from the mistakes of the Indians that were conquered by those who emigrated to this land. Don't let ourselves be divided and conquered.
     
  9. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Diamond,
    read this and you'll see how appalled a good many Americans are. Keep reading about the Turtle Mountain tribe and you'll see how worse it gets.
     
  10. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    If Americans are all illegal immigrants, then Australians are too, the alcholism and rampant drug and child abuse is partially because of the White Australia policy.
     
  11. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks for the article, I am very interested in the fall of the great Indian nations, especially the proud Cheyenne, Arapaho, and the Dakota, Lakota, Nakota. I believe part of the problem is that the ancestors who fought against the white settlers prided themselves on their lifestyle and independence, yet when they lost the wars are were reduced to living off meager scraps on a worthless reservation provided by the American government, a mentality of helplessness and sorrow overtook them. The wars which the white settlers had as much as a physical effect (massacre, starvation) as a mental effect.

    I believe the situation of the Native Americans and the Native Australians is quite similar. The governments of both nations need to take a more positive role in the situations of the people who they robbed of their land.
     
  12. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    How about the Baluchistanis? Should they get land back too? Just curious.
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Back from whom? The Persians, Afghanis and Pakistanis are indigenous to the region.
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    ...but it's Baluchistani territory. Shouldn't they be free? Why is the freedom of an indigenous people subject to the whim of foreign dictators? Big Iranian oil must be stopped now. The imperialist fancies of the fascist Tehranian regime have no place oppressing the freedom-loving Baluchistanis; essentially the entire affair is just another sop by the oil-addicted and corrupt Iranian establishment to maintain their meagre economic advantages over the Baluchistani people, who are kept out of the profit and educational loop so that the religio-fascists of Tehran can continue to reap their blood-sodden gains.

    N'est-ce pas?
     

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