are all americans illegal immigrants?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by EmptyForceOfChi, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    He has deliberately chosen to admonish Americans for complaining about illegal immigration, despite the fact that it is a glaring problem (maybe even worse) in his own country. At least in America we don't have a sex trade in underaged Mexican girls, unlike in many places in the EU---there was a huge crackdown in Germany before the world cup last year.

    The other problem is that Europeans will refuse to acknowledge that their system has created an underclass of citizens, just like our system in America. Go to Germany and talk to a Turkish person.

    Why don't you bitch about your own country, instead of talking about something that you don't really understand, Chi?
     
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  3. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Hey, Dark, don't let Chi bug you. The guy's actually got some brains - he just chooses not to use them very often. American-bashing is a very fashionable pass-time in his part of the world and he's just following the crowd that makes the biggest noise. That's how he appear to judge right from wrong.

    I've personally met and spent a lot of time with over two dozen folks from the UK that came over here and stayed at least a month. Every single one of them said it was nothing like to people back home had led them to believe it would be. They thought that muggings happened at just about ever street corner, that every second person standing at a cross-walk would be a drug dealer and that they would be kept up at night by all the shooting that goes on constantly.

    A few were even honest enough to say things were "much worse back home."

    So, it's all in the eye of experience - and some have very little or none at all.
     
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  5. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    I deal with the British all the time (here and overseas) and all I tend to hear is how fat and stupid Americans are (though not me, or so they say when then confide in me just how terribly dense they find most Americans to be). We were watching and one took the time to remark on how amazingly low-brow our commercials were "as if they were written for simpletons" whereas he felt that British commercials were "subtle" and "witty."

    The funny thing is that this is not blow back from Iraq, as I've noticed the same thing staring in about 1997, and it's been constant (though criticism of the President shot up).

    You know whose very pleasant though (at least when I deal with them)? The French. Go figure.
     
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  7. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    It's interesting to note that many native American tribes do not celebrate Thanksgiving Day (day commemorated to celebrate friendly Indians who helped the white settlers survive on the new continent), they instead call it the National Day of Mourning as this day the whites who they welcomed with respect overran their territory later and pushed them almost to extinction.

    The white settlers arrival on the Native American territories and consequent mass slaughter can be regarded as one of worst genocide campaigns in history.

    America belongs to the Indian tribes, or what remains of them, I believe the US should compensate them properly for this.
     
  8. FreeThinkers Registered Senior Member

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    Well, if you think about it, some animals are very possessive of their territory, and always are cautious not to go onto another animal's marked territory, so they do kind of have boundaries.
     
  9. FreeThinkers Registered Senior Member

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    I agree. And while we are on the subject of American history, why is such a big deal still made out of the American War of Independence? I mean, they didn't even have a good reason to look for independence, taxes to pay for a war that ultimately benefited them? Waa waa waa. It wasn't even a heavy tax. The French had a revolution because the peasants lost 85% of all their wages on tax. That's different.
     
  10. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    Talk about someone not understanding. Uh, in america there is a huge sex trade and drug trade. Over a million are smuggled in every year and many are children. You don't know jack shit about your country just like most americans. You like to lie and put on a very, very, very false image.
     
  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Mass slaughter?? What history are you reading? Americans fought the Indians for over 200 years before we brought it under control ...I don't think you'd call that mass slaughter in any language. ..not to mention that the Indians killed hundreds of thousands of whites.

    In many cases, those same Indians stole land that belonged to earlier Indian tribes ...should those Indians compensate the earlier Indian tribes?

    What land/territory on Earth belongs to it's "rightful" owner? I would venture to say that all the land on Earth does NOT belong to it's original "owner". How should we compensate them?

    Baron Max
     
  12. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    :bravo: Again, survival of the fittest. Slavery, torture, and war were already here when Europeans got here.
    He who rules makes the rules. And America's rule is no illegal immigration.

    And even if someone does consider European colonization hundreds of years ago illegal immigration, what the hell does it matter now?
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    How many Indians did the invaders kill?
     
  14. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    According to Ward Churchill, a professor of ethnic studies at the University of Colorado, the reduction of the North American Indian population from an estimated 12 million in 1500 to barely 237,000 in 1900 represents a "vast genocide . . . , the most sustained on record." By the end of the 19th century, writes David E. Stannard, a historian at the University of Hawaii, native Americans had undergone the "worst human holocaust the world had ever witnessed, roaring across two continents non-stop for four centuries and consuming the lives of countless tens of millions of people."



    http://hnn.us/articles/7302.html
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Sex trade? you must be confusing U.S with Asia, the capital of illegal sex trade. You should try reading something else besides state propaganda.

    The only 'laws' \ rules when the first British arrived on American shores was kill anything in site. The only problem was that the Indians did not know the Brits already knew about this rule.
     
  16. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Pot. Kettle. Black.

    Please show us some evidence of this "huge" sex trade in America - if you can!!!
     
  17. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    i think there should be a new rule that when a thread is over it is OVER.

    baron max answered the question perfectly and now all i see is a lot of weeping.
     
  18. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    Haha! It's not in the open dumbass or are you that dishonest to feign it doesn't exist. The most heinous thing about americans is their willful ignorance and pretending they have no sin. That's the worst kind of scum there is.

    You're confusing south asia with the rest of asia and most of the customers are westerners. And there is plenty of illegal shit going on in america and your pornographic industry is the largest.
     
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  19. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't matter what happened in the past. The point is "who's legal in this generation?" We don't care about the American born children of illegal immigrants.

    Why do you put a lock on your door? Huh? To keep people out. We all have motivation for keeping people out.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not everyone puts a lock on their door either.
     
  21. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    Anyone who is familiar with your typical pro-american stand knows people like you are a dime a dozen and aren't concerned about pot calling the kettle black. You don't want ANY negative facts about your country brought to light or pointed out at all like the scumbag and freak you are. That's very common to protect your inflated, false ego about america and americans.

    I don't have to give you evidence when you can go online and look under human trafficking and sex slave trade. It occurs everywhere the UK AND AMERICA.

    Anyone with any intellectual HONESTY would know I was pointing out that these things exist and no one is immune or nonguilty, you typical conservative joke. This is the response I get as I was expecting. DENY IT ALL YOU WANT BUT THE *FACT* AND THE *TRUTH* IS AMERICA, AMERICANS, THE WEST IS AS GUILTY.
     
  22. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe in "good areas." In some places, you can trust your neighbors.
     
  23. Dark520 Rebuilt Registered Senior Member

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    Please, take a look at this: www.foxwoods.com
    When you're done, proceed to find out how they got the money and land to do that.
    When you're done with that, shut the fuck up.
     

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