Antifa, BLM and SJWs vs White Nationalist, Battle of Charlottesville

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ElectricFetus, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Absurd! Back to my question, how do you propose dealing with the white nationalist?

    Clinton did not do that solution.
     
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  3. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Fixed...
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Sex, drugs and rock n roll?
     
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  7. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  8. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Not even an argument, once again I ask for solutions, do you have a solution?

    How is that a solution?
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Ouch

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/19720...m_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

    One man rallying with the white supremacists had been photographed wearing an “Arkansas Engineering” shirt; leftists found a photograph of Quinn that bore a facial resemblance to the rallygoer, and then they went to work. Quinn was targeted with vulgar messages on Twitter and Instagram, according to The New York Times. The messages accused him of being a racist, said he should be fired, and worst, posted his home address. Some tweets read “don’t let your kids near him” and “dude doesn’t need to be teaching anywhere” along with his picture. Quinn issued tweets saying that he wasn’t the man in the picture, that he was never in Virginia that weekend, and that he championed diversity at the University of Arkansas.
     
  10. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    OK then, since I lost my magic wand, start a civil war.
     
  11. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    My solution does not require a magic wand, simply join your local democratic party and make proposals aim at getting us out of this trumpian hell.
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    A sensible voice:


     
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  13. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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  14. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Well the trump just started winging it again, shove his foot down is own mouth and bit it off and kept talking!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-press-conference-charlottesville.html?_r=0

    "what about the alt-left?" First of all it is called the "ctrl-left" moron.

    There are levels to understanding any political issue, sort of like levels of morality, any level may be correct depending on the specific subject or event.
    level 1: one side is 100% correct and pure goodness the other side is 100% incorrect and evil.
    level 2: They are both bad! [throw hands up and leave]
    level 3: well one side is worse then the other.
    level 4: lets come together and try to work out a solution both sides can agree on.

    Trump is working from level 2, probably to defend his voting base. I'm working from level 3 and 4: the white nationalist are worse, just on a simple count of death toll and armaments, yes yes antifa are bad, yes the regressive left, sjw, ctrl-left are a problem, not for trump though, they helped him get elected. The solutions are as Liana K points out, we need to understand these people are afraid, the cause of their fear is they have no security, no economic security, we need to focus on economic security, this issue will unify uneducated poor whites, with uneducated poor blacks and Hispanics and so even middle class whites and blacks and Hispanics, men and women.
     
  15. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    That did not happen. The Left did not create an identity politics movement, the Left did not create a movement that shames and blames people for being born white, none of the current racist movements are "counter movements", and the same people who elected our current President elected the long term Republican members of the ongoing Republican dominated Congress and six of the last ten Presidential terms.

    You mean uneducated middle class whites, as well as poor - most Trump voters were more economically prosperous than the average citizen.

    In the past, common economic cause has failed to unify uneducated whites and any other race. Quite the opposite. Why will that resoundingly and repeatedly failed tactic work this time, in your opinion?
     
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  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit. They hate Jews and anyone that isn't white for reasons of their own that have nothing to do with money. What poor out of work guy can afford a newish Dodge Challenger?
     
  17. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    A guy on credit? Let see what is known about him: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/13/us/james-alex-fields-charlottesville-driver-.html
    1. He lived with his mother until a few months ago.
    2. Never knew his deceased father.
    3. Appears to have no education beyond high-school.
    4. Socially awkward.
    5. Dropped out of the military after just 4 months, unknown reason.

    Easy pickings to join a group that would give him propose and pride and brotherhood.
     
  18. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Found an free lance journalist who has come good commentary on the protests.
     
  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    And, now
    a brief musical interlude:
     
  20. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Hypothesis: if your other source of written communication is Twitter, youtube videos look like intellectual argument and stuff.
     
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  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Needs which transcend money. I will backtrack somewhat, however, and acknowledge that stress about money and jobs could be a contributing factor, but you have to be an asshole first.
     
  22. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    How do you think assholes are made? Had this man had a mother that could afford better education for him, a mentor program for him, he would have a better job, a career and a purpose in life, rather then a void to be filled by what ever. Your asshole theory has no solution, what do you propose we do? Identify asshole and exterminate them?
     
  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I propose electing public officials that reject evil ideologies.
     

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