An Island

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  1. poliwog Registered Senior Member

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    If there is an island, and it has a river on it, does that make it two islands?

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  3. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    ...LOL! No, of course not! Where did you get such a silly idea? What if the river started in the island's interior and only bisected part of the island?

    Now, let's ask the question correctly, okay? If an island is completely divided by a river or body of water, does that make it two islands?

    The answer is ......yes! See? Asking the right question is the very first thing that we must do in order to get the "right" answer.

    Baron Max
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Maybe, maybe not. What if the river is only 1 metre wide?
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, James, by the very definition of "island", even if the body of water or river is only two inches wide, it qualifies. And island is a body of land surrounded on all sides by water.

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  8. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm. I'd think that it requires a certain type of water. Not just water. But, then again, you find islands in the middle of rivers so...

    I suppose the problem is one that comes to light often in discussions where the terminology is used to cover a wide variety of meanings. The ambiguity of the english language.

    Island is a word to describe a little speck of dirt in the middle of a river and is also the word used to describe Hawaii. It is also often used in terms of Australia, the island continent.

    The sense of scale is vastly different in all these cases. And the language should reflect this in any truely meaningful discussion.



    Anyway.
    This would mean that Atlantis was not an island. But a series of islands. One inside the other?
     
  9. Light Registered Senior Member

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    No, you're just making it difficult and unnecessarily complicated. Any piece of land completely surrounded by water - be it ocean, sea, river or lake - is an island. And they can come in any size, large or small. The language isn't all that ambiguous.

    Terms like "island" don't require a big list of qualifiers and constraints as specific scientific terms often do.
     
  10. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Hawaiian"Islands"? Many rivers?
     
  11. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    John Dunne said, "No man is an island". Which, if you have seen anyone drowning, is patently untrue.
     
  12. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    That makes Antartica an island too, and Americans (though SA was connected to Antartica by a strip of land some 14000 bce)
     
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  13. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Technically, the continents ARE islands. But we've modified the terminology so as to make "continent" mean "big fuckin' island!".

    Ye're just trying to over-complicate things so as to argue ...but that's fine, please continue if you wish.

    Baron Max
     
  14. Roman Banned Banned

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    Well, continents are a little different than islands. Islands are typically created by erosion; water flowing over something and leaving high points out. The underlying geological stuff relies mostly unchanged (except now it's wet).

    Continents are forged deep in the heat of Middle Earth.
    *cough*
    Well, there's magma anyway.
     
  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    And continets are subjects to continental drift as seperate entities (continental plates anyway), islands are not.
     
  16. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Islands are not seperate entities. They are sconnected to tectonic plates and move with them but they will not drift as individual entities.

    Typically islands are created from remnants of volcanic activity (or are volcanos) or are created from erosion from a continental land mass. Either way, they are associated with the tectonic plate that underlie them and move with the plate.
     

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