America will be first nation to use Nuclear warheads.

Discussion in 'World Events' started by EmptyForceOfChi, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    This is my prediction, America and it's NATO allies will be the first to Nuke the crap out of an enemy who they can't defeat.

    I predict China and Russia to whoop America's ass with it's ground force, Naval force and Air force, America will then fire the first nuke like a bunch of cowards (All long range warfare to me is cowardice, just saying) But regardless I think America will fire the first Nukes and claim they had no other choice because the enemy was about to use them, and cry "Pre-Emptive strike"

    If it were up to me the King should go hand to hand with the President, or Dual Prime Minister Vs head of state etc 1v1 man to man. The most I would allow is Sword Dueling, none of that sissy nerdling crap shoot them from 1 Km away like a pansy, get up in there if you cant look your enemy in the eyes when you kill him then your just an oppertunist scavenger, yes im well aware of the art of war but I don't think everything is fair in love and war, (Personal opinion)


    Anyways regardless of who is a little pansy or not I predict NATO forces (Namely America) will fire the first nuke and start the final battle.

    War
     
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  3. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Hello Chi

    I hope you are well

    The thing is America has already used Nukes!!!

    So you are already corrrect!
     
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  5. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Alhamdullilah,

    Technically speaking america has used Atomic warheads, not quite nuclear warheads, but point noted that Atomic weapons are still cheating and weapons of Super mass destruction Godzilla style.

    I hope you are well too insha'allah.

    Peace!
     
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  7. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    "Technically speaking" what's the difference?
     
  8. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Thermonuclear and atomic as far as im aware are not regarded as the same thing, correct me if there isn't a difference?.
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Thermonuclear and nuclear are not the same. (Although a thermonuclear weapon is a nuclear one it's not vice-versa).
    But "atomic" and "nuclear" are synonymous with weapons.
     
  10. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    So are you saying the Atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima is anything like the Nuclear warheads NATO has now?. you class them as the same grade of weapon?
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    We tend to have thermonuclear weapons now. But a nuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon. It's only the details that vary, not what causes the explosion.
     
  12. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    My point was that the Atomic bomb that was used on japanese civilians by the United States was of a totaly different grade weapon than the Nuclear weapons we now have today, it's like comparing a artillery turret to a snub nose revolver, Sure they are both projectiles shot out in a simular fashion witht he same mechanics but they are not the same grade of weapon.

    If we dropped one of our modern nukes on Hiroshima there wouldn't be a japan left let alone a city, the whole island would be destroyed.


    peace.
     
  13. universaldistress Extravagantly Introverted ... Valued Senior Member

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    I am reasonable sure weapons of different yields are stored. Some much larger than Hiroshima. Some maybe of a par.

    Russia and China would struggle against the Allies. Our ground forces are far superior. Apache gunships an all. The technology the Allies have access to is far superior these days. If you believe USA would have to fight without the support of its close allies, you are mistaken. UK for one stands back to back with its brothers.
     
  14. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    I disagree, China has us out-matched on the ground as far as I have seen with their Infantry platoons being displayed, they have I think over 1.2 million basic infantry alone. Also Im pretty sure Russia has US out gunned when it comes to Artillery and Air force. Also Russia's Submarine fleet is top notch maybe the best in the world (Unsure havent checked recently)

    I think if China, Russia, Iran and the other Muslim nations were to unite they would have the upper hand. Also Allies would be fighting on away ground because NATO always attack and invade so that gives them home turf advantage.

    Since 1945 america has invaded and tried to over-throw over 50 foreign governments and has never been invaded. That's 100% aggression Vs defensive stance.

    Plus we all know what happens when you try to invade Afganistan you lose, What nation has ever won in afganista? I cant think of any, the rugged terrain is unfit for heavy armour, small light skirmish and guerilla tactics usualy prevail there. What happens when China and Russia ally? Japan are going to join them or get crushed, North Korea will join them also for obvious reasons.

    I think America would lose.

    peace.
     
  15. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    If America and UK Start using Nukes what do you think all the Civi's are going to do?, I think they will have a civil war on their hands. Have you seen all the American Militias arming up? they are openly declairing Waron their own government if anything like this kicks off. Just search on youtube "American Militias"

    They are defending the Constitution and are already ready to kick it off lol, I can see civil war from the Yanks very soon, lets just hope that does not happen otherwise lots of people are going to die.

    Peace.
     
  16. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    You mean modern weapons are more powerful?
    Sure. They still use the same principles.

    Wrong.
     
  17. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Don't just say wrong correct me then your lazy, give me the stats and details and impact Radius of the biggest warhead availible to NATO.
     
  18. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I suggest you check again.

    And the same here. Large numbers of ex-Soviet subs are now rusting hulks.

    Why would they ally?

    Um, no.
     
  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    You made the initial claim.

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  20. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    I will check out Russias current forces, and about them as an ally, have you noticed that nearly everyone hates america outside of america?. Go to the middle east and give them an american flag watch how fast they burn it.

    The chinese don't like america Lol Russia don't like america they are just using you to buy up debts and get you bankrupt. Iran hate america, most islamic states hate america they only do business with you for profit you know "rip off the kaffir" The saudi king is a dirty little traitor anyway when he dies and a new Caliph is put in place watch how fast they will unite against america.

    See when you live in the west you think everyone is americas buddy, Go to Europe, middle east, Asia nobody likes america they are the most hated state/s in the world. damn even most English people hate the "Yanks" go down to east london and put up an american flag see how fast it gets pissed on (not just by me either).



    America don't have as many allies as it likes to think it does, your about as unpopular as Israel and trust me nobody likes Israel apart from brainwashed christians.


    Lol
     
  21. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Yeah I made a claim and if you want to Debunk it provide evidence for the blast radius. Otherwise my claim has not been challenged by anything apart from "Your wrong".

    Im willing to take a new position anytime just provide some sound evidence and then i will analyze it, if it holds up and your right then I will retract my claim until then I still think we have Nukes that can take out the Island of japan.
     
  22. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    You made claim apparently based on nothing. Hence I do you the courtesy of (apparently*) replying from the same basis.

    Except that your claim appears to be based on... what? wishful thinking? Wild guesses? General ignorance? Gosh wow it goes BOOM?

    Have you bothered to check at all before making the claim?
    I'd say not: as per your other claims about Russian military capabilities.

    * I say "apparently" because I haven't provided any figures. My background, however,...
     
  23. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Ok then leave it at that, You say there is no nuke with the capability of destroying Japan, I say I think there is one of that magnitude. By the way I judged it off of the fact that reports say America has enough Nuclear capability of destroying the entire world I think 15 times over?. So Either You have a shit load of nukes or you have some reaally powerfull ones.


    Which of the 2 evils is it? not that it really matters.
     

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