AlphaGo

Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by Saint, May 26, 2017.

  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Machine wins, so what?
    Can machine "enjoy" playing chess like human?
     
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  3. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Was that the point of the story? Can a whale enjoy flying like a bird?
     
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  5. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    I agree so what

    I don't think that shows computers are closer to becoming intelligent

    If indeed was the point of the exercise

    I think it is some time off when intelligence and indeed enjoyment can be built into machines

    Part of the reasons is the non physical existence of concepts such as intelligence and enjoyment

    The game appears to be a contest between the big beach bully kicking sand in the face of the weakling

    I do think it could be possible for a computer to be built which can mimic intelligence and enjoyment over winning a game

    However intelligence and enjoyment span the gamut of human experiences far in excess of a game

    Thinking about robots in SiFi I really cannot think of one which shows intelligence

    Most seem to operate as a mobile computer with a vast amount of information

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  7. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    my calculator can calculate faster than me, is it intelligent?
     
  8. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Before I answer that

    can I ask

    how much faster?

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  9. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    I am talking about calculating millions and above.

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  10. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    If If If there was an equivalent of

    idiot savant

    in the computer world that would be what your calculator would be

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  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    If whales learn to fly, their enjoyment of the activity will be a secondary concern. Good strong umbrellas will be primary.
     
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  12. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    The story here <<<

    My favorite part:
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The goal is not to benefit the computer; the goal is to develop and refine artificial intelligence.

    No. You calculator is simply doing math on numbers you supply it.
    Making decisions based on a the vast array of extremely complex factors involved it the strategy of a human game is many, many orders of magnitude more difficult.

    Figuring out how to
    - get a computer to examine and prioritize these factors, and
    - acquire a result so complex that it beats a human at a human game of strategy
    is the goal of this research.
     
  14. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    When it goes on a picnic

    Picks a daisy and plays

    she loves me she loves me not

    Tries it on

    Cries when turned down

    Is governed by the little brain

    Confused about which toilet to use

    Just MIGHT be getting close to AI

    That's the male version

    Don't get me started on the blonde female version

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  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Hooray for AlphaGo!

    As far as I know the rovers on other planets wouldn't be able to get instructions from Earth without a clear line of sight. Now, future robots could do their own thing without communication.
     
  16. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I hope people are not annoyed by me being technical but line of sight does not seem right for that. Sight is not involved.

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  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I used 'sight' instead of 'electromagnetic spectrum'.
     
  18. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    I read that in the next 30 years, AI will take away many jobs done by humans,
    many people of low education will suffer.

    How true can this prophecy be?
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    They've been saying that since the dawn of the Industrial Age.

    The upshot will be that employment opportunities will open up in more advanced fields as the grunt work is no longer done by humans.
    'Web Designer' and 'AI content provider' will become the 'factory assembler' and 'toilet cleaner' of the 21st century.
     

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