After rape memory pill question

You are talking about percentage wise, but more women do get raped more than men. So what has all this got to do with women being more delicate than men? Is this going to change the biological and physiological frame of both men and women? And what has all this got to do with my own position? Did you read my posts carefully?

Since you are new, I won’t jump on you yet, I won’t call you names. I made a mistake for saying women are delicate because they wear provocative dresses, I agree on that;I should have seperated the sentence. Women are delicate because they need a lot more nurture and attention than men; this is a result of biological and socio-cultural inferences. Rape or wearing provocative outfit has nothing to do with it.

 

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Can you fuckin tell me from any sentence that I blame women for being raped? And is it not true that some rape cases were caused by provocative outfits and/or drugs? And what has this got to do with me? Did I tell you I was jesus, and that I was here to die for the sin of rape? Are you fuckin stupid?

You need to shut up because not only can’t you read properly, but you think you can read people’s minds. Put a cork in it.

Now, these are different aspects of the same event, I never mentioned these instances, you are putting words in my mouth again; are you that bored or just plain daft. Yes, but like I said, I would report such cases, but I would probably take justice in my hands before I file a real report. That’s just me, but this shouldn’t have anything to do with anything. I am not interested in demonstrating my many abilities, that’s left for the sports arena, believe me.

Believe me, I don’t have any attitude towards women. Sometimes I think there is a little too much attention towards women, attention that benefits no one, but nothing too manifest or antagonistic, I love women. Women are just like men in most instances, women can do everything men can and maybe even better. I hate giving anybody special treatment unless of they deserve it, that’s just speaking from past experience, but women are capable of evil too, which is the reason for my position of fairness. In edition of the NY post a women starved her two sons almost to death and abused them mercilessly, saved only by the arms of children services.

Has this ever happened to you? What the fuck do you think you know about rape, STD’s, and judicial affiliated cases? You keep on going on and on about how humanitarian you can be, but what the fuck has all these crap got to do with anything? Can you even explain how all this pertains to me and my rather ambivalent but sympathetic position on sex and rape. What has all this jargon got to do with “manliness”? Do you even have any idea of what we are talking about and what I am talking about? Is all this going to change the fact that women will still dress anyway they want every summer, that women prostitutes in Thailand contribute to the greatest amount of STD’s, that some women don’t realize that not all men are gentlemen who can control their sexual urge or vengeful motive, that infidelity is another form of rape because it disregards the consent of the partner. You are going to educate me on rape, but you don’t even know what the fuck you are talking about.

- Well, I am happy I know nothing about rape; at least you have explained it in totality to me.

 

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Key Facts
-Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.
-One in six American women are victims of sexual assault, and one in 33 men.
In 2004-2005, there were an average annual 200,780 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
-About 44% of rape victims are under age 18, and 80% are under age 30.
Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 69%.

http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesrapestats.htm

 

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Here is an interesting take on it. I would take the pill, then do justice on my own, let's say shooting the person in the stomach or legs a few times. If he bleeds to death, hey, whose fault is it?

Now they would put me on trial, and I could say: I don't really remember why I shot him, but he did something bad to me...

Of course I could figure out a way to screw him without getting caught...

 

And am I wrong? Are you going to tell us that no time in history has provocative dressing tempted a man to rape? What has this fact really got to do with my opinion?

Here's you making a fool of yourself again. First you deform me for bring up provocative dresses, only for you to bring up a link reinforcing the fact that provocative dressing is a factor in rape.

You need to

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, its a free world. I can decide not to report if a woman rapes me(laughs). At least I'm not fooling anybody or wasting anybody's time, I believe if a guy can have an erection during unconsensual intercourse, its not rape. What the fuck is your problem?

No victim is ever to balme, I agree, I am not in the business of setting up a blaming comittee. However, I have to also call a spade a spade. Certain things like drugs, alchohol, and provocative outfits are factors in rape. All this things have nothing to do with me; I never forced anybody to do anything. I pointed out Viagra in my posts, why didn't you notice that?

 

At least you admitted to one of your stupidities. Why would you feel the need to "jump on me" or call me names? Would that make your original post less stupid? No.

 

LOL. This thread is now getting stupid, but at least bells has the decency not to directly call people names, unlike newbies like jessiej920. Bells, you seem like a decent guy but I think you are sometimes over-analyzing what what rape is or shouldn't. First of all, its not a myth that provocative dresses causes men to rape women, its a fact. Certain men see certain women everyday and it subconciously rests in their mind how wonderful it would be if they had a chance with any women at all, NOT just the one's wearing bearly there dresses. Pornography is another exampe, the society is laden with pornography with virtually any little disgression. Drugs are also a fact of rape. There was a recent rape case involving a male Mexican immigrant and a white middle class women, investigations revealed that the male was laden with cocaine and alchohol on that day. I personally don't give a rats ass if women decide to wear umbrellas, they can wear whatever they want, but I have the right to say what I want. Yes, these factors are not invitations for rape, but so are accidents due to drunk and impaired driving, spousal abuse due to alchohol, gang activities, e.t.c. We can continue to deliberate all day, but the fact is that factors are factors, there's nothing you can do about that, it doesn't mean they don't play a role, and it doesn't mean we should totaly disregard them. Personaly, I think a man that can get and sustain an erection during what is called unconsensual sexual intercause is not rape. Feelings are more important than the individual, we say what we feel, we are what we feel at certain times, and many people do certain things based on feelings. Its possible not to evolve an erection during forced sex, I certainly can do it if I really feel violated. Unless of cause the male was druged with some sort of sexual stimulant, then you can claim "under foreign duress" and negligence in the court of law. Thats just my own opinion.

 

What's stopping you fromtestifying before you take the pill?

What's that mean?

 

How many fat, ugly women wearing dowdy clothing are raped per year?

So temptation doesn't mean anything? If that's the case, then there should be the same number of fat, ugly women raped as are good-looking women wearing nice clothing, right? Do you have those statistics?

Rape also seems to be that a woman can have consensual sex, then lie about it to the police. I would also suggest that there's been many cases of consentual sex at parties where the woman LATER decides to bring charges of rape in order to protect herself from gossip and rumor.

But, still .....I'm now really curious; how many fat, ugly women are raped per year as compared to good-looking, attractive, well-dressed women?? Anyone know??

Baron Max

 

The pill only works in a short timeframe, the court works in a longer one...

 

Baron Max,

Bells put up a link which covers your thoughts about how a woman looks/dresses in regard to rape.

 

No, it didn't actually answer my questions, it only continued the old bullshit that's been spouted for years and years ......with apparently little or no evidence to back it up.

"The belief that only young, pretty women are sexually assaulted stems from the myth that sexual assault is based on sex and physical attraction. Sexual assault is a crime of power and control and offenders often choose people whom they perceive as most vulnerable to attack or over whom they believe they can assert power. Sexual assault victims come from all walks of life."

If rape victims are, actually, as they say/claim, then they must have statistics to back it up. Just making that statement does NOT make it true.

So .....where are the statistics? And do the stats show that most rape victims are attractive young women?

Baron Max

 

After being raped, I would endure the torture of living with that knowledge, and testify, to serve justice.

After reading Chatha's posts, I would take the pill. Two of them.

 

Then I'd take the pill.

 

Okay, so you want statistics on whether the majority of women who have been raped are young and attractive. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so if such a thing were documented it would be based on that person's opinion, those stats would mean nothing, at least not to me.

Whatever sets the rapist off in his mind to do such a violent act doesn't take away from him being guilty of doing it- he is the one at fault for not controlling himself NOT the victim. I'm assuming you think that the victim is somehow contributing to being raped or you wouldn't keep bringing up how the victim is dressed or attractive and young. If that is not what you mean, then I apologize and would be curious as to why you do keep bringing that up.

Some people dream of having lots of money, but if a person cannot come by money honestly and in turn robs a bank, they are the one with the problem, not the banks.

Should we make every young attractive woman cover up from head to toe in order not to be a victim? IF such a thing were done...do you honestly think that rape would decline or better yet- cease?

If sex is not consensual, then it is rape. It doesn't matter if the woman is wearing a bikini at the beach or sweats. There are no excuses good enough to ever justify a rape.

 

I tried to find stats on the subject, but the phrasing would be very non-PC and also very subjective so I couldn't find it. I did find some articles on how the physical beauty of the victim effected the crime itself or the jury's decission, but that wasn't the question.