Afghanistan - What is the objective?

You must have a very different opinion of the US government then

 

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This is perhaps encouraging?

Obama: U.S. must have "exit strategy" in Afghanistan

Any comments?

 

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He's also sending more troops and discussing expanding the military operations in Pakistan.

 

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How's that?

 

Apparently Obama wants a death wish for America. So the question is, how exactly is he any different from Bush?

 

Death wish? ...LOL! That's a silly thing to say. A bunch of, a few hundred, filthy radicals with outdated weapons destroy the USA?? ...LOL!!

The very worst that could happen is that we pull out like we did in Vietnam ...and be no worse for the years of war. Death wish??

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Baron Max

 

Obviously.

 

Well, seeing as how, for example, terrorists not affiliated with any country flying planes into towers resulted in the invasion of Iraq, a country that never attacked the US, and Afghanistan, I think we can assume the actions following any such attacks would be the same.

 

Obviously? What was our "exit strategy" for World War II?

Baron Max

 

So?

We were comparing the rationality of Saddam and some other entity yet to be specified.

 

Destroy opposing armies, obtain surrender.

 

No, not obviously. How do you figure that?

 

1.This is not a conventional war.
2. Who/what surrenders?

 

Obviously military action is not nearly enough, it can even be counterproductive. We need to win hearts and minds, so that the common Afghani person knows we aren't about empire, but helping them defeat a common enemy, those who represent oppression and violence.

Of course, I was trying to convince BM of that.

 

Name two consecutive years in the last 50 when the US was not involved in war of some kind.

 

Odd, don't you think ....that during World War II, we invaded France, which had been invaded by Nazis, and we bombed the fuck out of French cities and towns to rid the country of Nazis. Ditto for Belgium.

Well, the Taliban took over Afghanistan in much the same way as the Nazis occupied France. We should use the same tactics in Afghanistan to rid the country of the Taliban in the same way as we did to rid France of the Nazis.

Hearts n' minds???? Is that what we were worried about in France in World War II?

Baron Max

 

Well, SAM, we could ask the same question of Afghanistan, couldn't we? As I understand it, Afghanistan has been at war with someone, including some of their own people, since humans began living there!!

Now that we've gotten that out of the way. What possible difference to anything did that make?

Baron Max

 

If you want to go down that line, can you provide us with a list of currently active gangs in the US? I was watching Ross Kemp on Gangs in LA or something and he was talking to the Bloods and Crips gangs. It was amazing how their thought and actions reminded me of some of the news we hear from some Taliban controlled areas. He was interviewing a male and female gang member and when he asked the female gang member what would happen if she were to have a relationship with a male gang member of a rival gang, the male gang member interrupted and said they would gang rape and beat her. Now, Im not saying thats what Christianity is, but what I am saying is that the mindset of poor and demoralized people that form gangs is the same worldwide.

 

More games:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/22/us-afghan-plan-to-bypass-karzai

 

Fair enough.