abstract machines?.

I dug this up pretty quickly, but not sure if it's the one you meant....

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34768

And as you can see, I replied at length and you left me hanging!!!!!

Hehe.. did you ever decipher my "plane thing"?

 

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I somewhat understand it (the plane thing). Back then I had a tendency to start a thread and then not care pretty quickly. Now that I am a posting whore, I will probably bring that thread back up and make a reply.

And BTW, the thread I was refering to was this .

It has NOTHING to do with free-will like I thought, but it's at the bottom.

 

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Aside from the flaw I pointed out (though as it has been pointed out, could just be a technicality), I see humans and all living creatures as 100% machine. A machine can only "know" via manipulation of atoms and/or chemicals that are used to store information.

What do you mean by "know?"

 

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Isn't asking what somebody knows about "knowledge" rather circular?

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After reader a book called Artificial Life - about genetic algorithms and the like - I've been fairly convinced that intelligence is an emergent phenomenon, and that it can emerge within any system with the right components. But anyway, if computer power continues to increase, we'll see.