Abiogenic Oil

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  1. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Diving as in scuba diving - not as in diving off the cliffs

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    although there were a few good cliff jumping spots to the east

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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, OK. That makes more sense.
     
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  5. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    spot on there - where the oil shale is exposed at kimmeridge, it was not buried deep enough to be converted into oil - neither was it buried long enough for it to mature.
    However about 15 - 20 miles from kimmeridge, the stratum drops down much deeper and is trapped under a cap rock (granite IIRC), they are extracting quite a bit of oil from there - from the very same stratum, in fact last time I checked it was the largest onshore oil field in Europe.
    Everything is consistent with biogenic theory in this instance- hydrocarbons from the mantle my arse! There isn't a fault or a rift for 1000 miles!
     
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  7. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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  8. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    How come we don't find oil there or wherever we find fossils? Germany has fossils across all strata. No oil.
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Because oil comes from plankton inhabiting oxygen starved stagnant seas. If a sea creature happened to enter that region, it would be die and be fossilized, but for the most part nothing else could live there. It's a rare situation.
     
  10. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    And as I have referenced before the reason that U.S. oil production declined in the 70's was because of the laws congress passed in conjuction with the environmentalists, we lost 85% of our drilling capacity, and oil industry.

    Don't you think, that would make a big dent in the oil production?

    From 1993........

    No shortage of oil only a shortage of drilling capacity, due to congress and the environmentalists, a shortage of refining capacity due to laws congress passed to kowtow to the environmentalist, no use of the oil that we already had on the west coast...East Coast...large areas of the Gulf...on federal lands in the continental 48.....and Alaska.

     
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  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense, they stopped drilling because it was pointless. Oil reserves of U.S. firms are verified by the U.S. Geological Survey. This peak was predicted by Hubbard and it happened.

    Why bother drilling in ANWR, if there is abiotic oil everywhere?
     
  12. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    BECAUSE THATS WERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    So, if that were where it really is, would that mean it isn't anywhere else after all, as it where, or were?
     
  14. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    If you don't explore, you can't find oil, and yes, then known reserves go down, because you are not looking for oil, so if your not looking, you don't find oil, and that was cut off in the 70's, by Congress and the Environmentalist, they passed laws restricting exploration, the reserves go down because you don't develop new reserves.

    Why are new reserves being found all over the world?

    Brazil, Vietnam, Europe, Asia, India, Russia, the U.S. ANWAR, China,......

    Sakakawea, South Alibek, Prirazlomnoye, Dolginskoye, Urengoy, Sakhalin III,
    China's Bohai Bay, Badin, Saurashtra Basin, Dua-4X, South Alibek, Prirazlomnoye, Dolginskoye, Badin, Okoro, Setu, Ogedeh, Obo, Belinda, Ebouri. South Tchibala, East Orovinyare, Disraeli, Gullfaks, Molchanovskoye,

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    If you don't know about it it can't be listed in the reserves, and your reserves shrink.
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    That is the problem with goat thinking.

    spidergoat looks at only one field at a time, and then mesures that fields reserves against the total demand of the world.

    So yes that one field's reserves don't add up to a drop of the needed oil, but it don't work that way, there are hundreds of fields in production at any given moment, and there are hundreds of new fields being explored and proven.

    New Fields are awaiting drilling capacity to catch up:

    Financial Sense Online Market WrapUp with Chris Puplava 04.04.2007
    Global demand for crude oil has outstripped production from 2001 to 2005 .... A global shortage of deep-sea drilling rigs is costing Chevron precious time ...
    http://www.financialsense.com/MARKET/cpuplava/2007/0404.html

    From NPR...

    May 29, 2008 ... But oil exploration has been limited by a severe shortage of drilling equipment and labor — and government opposition.
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90931437

    Rig shortage hinders Indian oil exploration - International Herald ...
    May 29, 2007 ... MUMBAI: India has put off an auction of oil exploration rights by five months as a rig shortage delays drilling in existing fields and slows ...
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/29/business/sxrig.php

    RIGZONE - Rig Shortage Slows Chevron Bid to Tap Offshore Fields
    Dec 21, 2006 ... A global shortage of deep-sea drilling rigs is costing Chevron .... aspect of the exploration and production side of the oil & gas business, ...
    http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=39366
     
  16. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Financial Sense Online Market WrapUp with Chris Puplava 04.04.2007
    Global demand for crude oil has outstripped production from 2001 to 2005 .... A global shortage of deep-sea drilling rigs is costing Chevron precious time ...
    http://www.financialsense.com/MARKET/cpuplava/2007/0404.html

    From NPR...

    May 29, 2008 ... But oil exploration has been limited by a severe shortage of drilling equipment and labor — and government opposition.
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90931437

    Rig shortage hinders Indian oil exploration - International Herald ...
    May 29, 2007 ... MUMBAI: India has put off an auction of oil exploration rights by five months as a rig shortage delays drilling in existing fields and slows ...
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/29/business/sxrig.php

    RIGZONE - Rig Shortage Slows Chevron Bid to Tap Offshore Fields
    Dec 21, 2006 ... A global shortage of deep-sea drilling rigs is costing Chevron .... aspect of the exploration and production side of the oil & gas business, ...
    http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=39366
     
  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    Why bother indeed. I suppose all the dinosaurs were only at the Ghawar area - the biggest oil field on planet Earth? Must have been a Dinosaur New York City....who knows....


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  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It was an ancient ocean floor, and had the perfect conditions not only for forming the oil at depth, but trapping it with overlying layers of impermeable rock.
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    Ocean or lake?
     
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  21. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    So, it must be a massive hoax perpetrated over the last, let's see, 100 odd years, by all those geologists and oil prospectors?

    I guess that's just how it goes, sometimes, huh?

    P.S. What does frozen methane on Titan have to do with the topic of oil on planet Earth? (could it be - next to nothing whatsoever?)
     
  22. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Partly a hoax from incentive bias but mainly just ignorance of the laws of physics, chemistry, solfataric volcanoes, and methane volcanoes.

    Hydrocarbons come from the mantle and geological processes associated with it, namely volcanoes. Subaerial solfataric volcanoes on the Earth and cryovolcanoes on Titan: http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explo...29/media/movies/nwrota_brimstone14_video.html
     
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  23. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And they are also found in deep space, and on asteroids, and on the planets and moons of the solar system.

    Oil, however, is not. A great mystery. But the answer is becoming clearer, with modern scientific geology.

    Recent modern scientific investigations by PhDs are discovering more and more proof of connections between the disappearance of the water after the Noachian Flood and the emergence of oil near the surface of Earth, often under great pressure as if being forced upward.

    In layman's terms: the water from the slow comet soaked into the earth, and as everyone knows oil floats on water and was pushed up into the cracks as the earth expanded.

    A more technical explanation, with scientific maps and drawings of the comet and the Earth at the time of Noah, will be found in my forthcoming book "Small Earth , Big Rainbow: The Origins of Earth's Geography in the Noachian Event". My co-authors are modern scientists with PhDs who have done a lot of modern scientific research into the Old Testament, and I provided the humorous quotes from past scientists who have fallen into error through lack of Bibllical scholarship and their faith in science rather than God.
     

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