I have'nt posted here for a while, the place seemed to be over-run, by (guess). but tonight was the first time in ages, that only two of the last posts, of each thread out of the forty threads, were by lightgigantic, what a nice thing to see, maybe theres a light at the end of the tunnel, after all.(pun intended) anyway enough of that. Lots of people here have mentioned that theists have told them variations on "You're too nice/friendly/kind to be an atheist." It seems like there's a flipside to this. My brother lives in SW scotland, and he was telling me about a big investigation going on about a reliogious con-man accused of swindling millions of pounds out of many people. The funny thing is, many people who where swindled refuse to believe that he--and his henchmen--could possibly be guilty and will not report that their money is missing, because the fraudsters are xian or posed as xians. The con-men would join churches and religious organizations to find their marks. Now investigators are having a hard time getting people to come forward because these people have this near unshakable belief that it's all a Big Mistake. Likewise, I know many Muslims who refuse to believe that any Muslim could ever be a terrorist, because Muslims must be "good people" by definition. ... Do you ever get the impression religion is a system ideal for con-artists and probably created by them? Just like a con, it requires faith in the absence of evidence, there's always a really good story why there's no evidence, you must first invest something before the guarenteed payback, which never arrives. so religion is a con and yet not one religious person realises it. how do you convince a brick wall?. how do you teach reason to an unreasonable person?. how can you show what's rational to the irrational?.