A hangup on plurals...

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by tim840, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. tim840 Registered Senior Member

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    so back when there was an East Germany and a West Germany, would you have said that there were two Germanies? or two Germanys? i know that when pluralizing a word ending in -y, you should change it to an -ie and add -s, but is that still the rule for proper nouns?
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    My gut instinct is that the correct pluralisation in this case is "Germanys", but I can't give you an absolute reason for that. It probably has something to do with "Germany" being a proper noun.

    I'll wait for Fraggle to show up and explain all.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Hmm...

     
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  7. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Most words which end with Y once ended with IE. Plurals were made by simply adding S.
    The singular spelling was changed yet the plural spelling ridiculously kept the IE.
    This should be stopped. Plurals should be made by simply adding S.
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Couldn't you just say " Germany was once two seperate countries" ?
     
  9. superstring01 Moderator

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    Yes. But the OP has a point. I think it's "Germanys" but "Germanies" might be right too. Damn! Where's Fraggle?

    ~String
     
  10. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. I don't know why English speakers/writers have such an aversion to simply adding an S after a Y.

    I have a pony, you have a pony, together we have two ponys. What the hell is the problem with that?
     
  11. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    I would have written "Germanies"...
     
  12. justwonderingjoe Gosh,the weather is nice today Registered Senior Member

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    I would write: Germanys
     
  13. tim840 Registered Senior Member

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    im not asking because i need to know xP i'm just wondering. personally, i would write Germanys, but i dont know if thats right.
     
  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    “ Originally Posted by StrangerInAStrangeLa
    Most words which end with Y once ended with IE. Plurals were made by simply adding S.
    The singular spelling was changed yet the plural spelling ridiculously kept the IE.
    This should be stopped. Plurals should be made by simply adding S. ”


    There seems little or no reasoning to it. When a change is needed, people are super resistant yet people seem to enthusiasticly accept absurd changes.
     
  15. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    If you Google it, you get about twice as many hits on "Germanys" as on "Germanies." But there are hundreds of thousands on both. I'd say the issue has not been settled and there's no standard English spelling. Throughout the Communist Era we talked about the Two Koreas, the Two Chinas and the Two Germanies, and we spelled it both ways.

    Now that the Berlin Wall has fallen, we don't have much reason to talk about Two Germanys. If the question hasn't been resolved by now it probably never will be.
     
  16. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    A large fraction of the returns for "Germanys" appear to be people who meant to make Germany possessive but forgot the apostrophe.
     
  17. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    I saw that. But even backing that out, each spelling of the plural seems to appear on a lot of websites. What I haven't found is a preferred spelling from anyone with a claim to authority.
     
  18. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I dreamt of visiting both Koreas....

    Oh, the question was about Germany. Well, I don't dream about Germany...
     
  19. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    I would use Germanys.

    If my name was Marty, I would dislike it if someone said "Are both Marties coming out tonight?"
     
  20. firdroirich A friend of The Friends Registered Senior Member

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  21. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    If you use the Latin name, then the plural would be Germaniae.
     
  22. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    No we don't. Someone stole my pony. I think they took it to the Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
     

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