8 Million Americans have Near Death Experiences according to Gallup Poll

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  1. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    Only one person? I have two people on my ignore list because they are low on content and high on insults. Basically they're trolling. Who needs that?
     
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  3. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    I like the avatar. It makes me think I'm talking to a cute anime girl.

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    Advances in medical science are great.
    Seek medical help when you need it. But what do you do when medical help is not enough? You turn to prayer and things that give you hope. There is benefit to being hopeful. But no, I don't think it's a good idea to withhold medical attention from a sick child (because they might die)!
    I don't want you to put me on your ignore list. I'll be nice (or at least I'll try to be nice). But if I do flame at some atheists and tell them to go to hell, I don't mean you.

    I disagree that belief in an afterlife is harmful. If anything, it gives hope. Hope is good. I also think there are messages that we get, that are presented as coming from a spirit world. People come back with messages of hope in an afterlife. But the messages are not caused by natural selection. On this issue, there is nothing honorable, nothing noble in trying to destroy hope. I want to be judged on my values. My values are that keeping hope alive is a virtue.


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    It is entirely possible that science cannot penetrate the deepest mysteries of the universe. The fact that science cannot detect the soul is unfortunate. However, I have the right to my beliefs. I have the right to believe that wave-functions have something to do with the astral plane, the spirit world and the soul.
    I've always heard that the soul is tethered to the physical body through the silver cord. http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research12.html

    We can leave our body through an OOBE or astral travel, but were still tethered to our body. When we have a near death experience, were still tethered to the physical body (which is probably why the brain still has brain waves). When we die, the silver cord is severed, and we go on in the world of spirit and leave our body behind for good. I was taught this when I was young. I still believe it.
     
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  5. Bebelina Feminazi Messiah Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, thank you and the same to you.


    We can't do anything else but assume. There are no "facts" that are not based on a series of assumptions. We must agree, assume that certain rules apply to this universe and from there do our investigations, but that platform can't be constant in order for us to evolve, it has to be open for re-evaluation on a regular basis.

    I have noticed that it's very common for americans to assume animals have no feelings or thoughts for example, but there is absolutely no proof of that and serves more as a way to avoid getting attached to the beings we torture and abuse to death for money and food.

    I think psychics can be consulted about NDE aswell as any other person/profession.

    We will always get outside the currently visible and discover more and more and more.
     
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  7. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    I think psychics (good psychics) can pick up on subtleties of body language. It has to do with being compassionate and caring about other people. At least that's been my experience.
     
  8. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    No thanks needed - just promise to enjoy life!


    Bebelina, I am not sure who these "we" are that you speak of, but I can, and do everything else, other than "assume"!!

    Is gravity a "fact based on a series of assumptions"? What are the series of "assumptions" that led to the "assumed fact" that stepping off of a 50-story building, accelerating through free-fall, then being suddenly impeded further progress by solid concrete will cause certain bodily injuries and most likely death?

    Bebelina, gravity is not an "assumed fact". It is a Proven Fact!

    Whether or not the exact Nature of WHY Gravity is has been entirely figured out - it has still been proven conclusively, through study, experimentation and observation.
    You and your "we" may choose to "assume" that gravity is a fact.
    However, myself and possibly just a few (maybe 6 or 7 billion) other people KNOW it to be a concretely evidenced and accepted, Proven Fact. - Pun intended -

    Sorry, Bebelina, but I, dmoe, must humbly disagree.

    Bebelina, The Fundamental Laws of Observable Reality that Science is based on are not evolving or changing. That is why they are Fundamental Laws.
    Life on this planet has kept on evolving for billions of years with gravity obeying the same exact Fundamental Laws of today. Though we may know MORE about it tomorrow or in another billion years - The Fundamental Laws will remain The Fundamental Laws.
    As for being "open for re-evaluation on a regular basis", gravity is Tested and Confirmed (re-evaluated) on an almost daily basis - and to this very day, has yet to ever be PROVEN NON-EXISTENT.

    So...Bebelina, you also "assume" that actions/events that you notice, can only occur because of what you also "assume" are the only Beliefs/Feelings/Motivations that could serve the person performing the actions/events you witness!

    Bebelina, I have been aware of all life on this planet from my very first exposure to cognitive awareness nearly 6 decades ago.

    What part of :
    ...led you to "assume" that I, dmoe, "...avoid getting attached to the beings we..." share this awesome world of nature alongside of, just so I can "... torture and abuse (them) to death for money and food."?

    Which is the reason I mentioned that fact in the first place.

    Again, Bebelina, I am not sure who these "we", nor am I sure I Grok'd, completely, your ^^above^^ statement!

    However, I do firmly believe that we should be constantly striving to expand our intelligence and understanding of all of nature.

    That expansion, can only be accomplished by diligent study, experimentation and observation. Assumptions, Fantasies/Wishes to be True, Crackpot Measures and Delusions will only serve to impede that expansion!

    Later, and again, Happy Holidays Bebelina.
     
  9. rr6 Banned Banned

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    Ego Deaths Yet To Come > > > I admit My My Ego Block to Truth

    Ok, 8 million. Now we need closer to 100%of American adults to have ego deaths.

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    I acknowledge my ego block to truth.

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  10. Bebelina Feminazi Messiah Valued Senior Member

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    http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/basic_assumptions
     
  11. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Bebelina, well since "proves" and "claims" are practically not synonymous, and are also virtually not interchangeable in definition, I will not "assume" any reasoning for your Posting of ^^above^^ Link.

    Would you care to enlighten us as to your aforementioned reasoning behind Posting the Link?

    Bebelina, Why "wonder"? Why not investigate - do some research - Heck, just google it, or wiki, maybe even youtube!?!?

    Bebelina, why "wonder", when the Internet is available to supply answers!?

    Or you could let other Posters do the work for you!

    Maybe 5000 people in U.S.with surname "Lanza" -:
    http://family-names.findthedata.org/q/6256/603/How-popular-is-the-surname-Lanza ;
    http://names.mongabay.com/surnames_L.htm

    Of course - it would probably take longer than 2-minutes to trace genealogy to establish any family relationship.
     
  14. Bebelina Feminazi Messiah Valued Senior Member

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    I think you just like tagging Bebelina in every sentence to make your posts show up in association with googlesearches for Bebelina.
     
  15. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    I am fairly certain that your "Psychic Skills" are somewhat non-existent if that is what you truly "think".

    I honestly have absolutely no feelings as to whether or not my "posts show up in association with googlesearches for Bebelina"! I do not even use google as a search engine!

    You seem to be the type of Poster that consistently fails to answer queries or provide any kind of clarification when requested, though.

    What do you "think" about that?
     
  16. Bebelina Feminazi Messiah Valued Senior Member

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    You seem to be the type of poster who likes to focus on sidetracks that are not relating to the topic whatsoever.
     
  17. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    So...

    ...I will leave you to your "assumptions".


    Still, have a Happy Holiday Season.
     
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    When one dies the brain releases a chemical called Dimethyltryptamine, or DMT in laymen terms. This is a compound of the tryptamine family which can in fact be found in virtually anything natural and grown, such as all kinds of plants and even our mind/brains (in the Pineal gland), this is actually the cause of dreaming in "REM" sleep, it a release of this compound that produces the images and sounds you are certain you are experiencing during the event, but can completely disregard as a simple dream you may never fully remember when you awake. This chemical reaction that is induced at time of death produces incredible hallucinations (same as dreaming), in fact its the most psycho active hallucination one can experience, even above an ayahuasca experience, which is still performed in many tribal cultures. there are even churches and religions based around the experiences felt from these effects, making it all more evident why people may have these "NDE". These experiences may have a much deeper connection to the universe than we know today, like its been said before, science isn't a set of facts, its always changing, the only thing for sure is that because of people on this site, pushing the limits of thier mind and expanding their knowledge, is the only possible way to land on any solid answer to this inquiry.

    -We Are All Perpetual-
     

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