5-HTP Pills,THEY REALLY WORK!

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    Dude stop! Its not the pills that harm you,its what is inside.They have taken the chemicals out of Marijuana and placed them in pills which gives you the same exact high as it would from smoking the actual leaf because it contains the actual chemical that contributes to whatever it causes.5HTP is a natural amino acid(tryptophan)that creates Serotonin in the brain.The brain already has Serotonin however when depressed,on drugs or lack of sleep is usually due to a depletion of Serotonin,read before you bash it because it placed inside a pill.This is by far much more safe than taking the chemicals they place in anti-depressants.5HTP actually allows you to sleep becauses it replaces serotonin

     
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    It gives me a drastic boost because it does what it is supposed to do.Allow you to sleep,control your appetite,relieves panic attacks and depression.Anyone taking this pills expecting to feel high and good might as well smoke Crystal meth because that is the only way your going to get a boosting euphoric,jump up and clap your feet and heels exciting high.That is not what this herb does,it just replaces the fucked up balance that exist in the brain.The pills work for the majority who take them,people who have had serious depression and anxiety have consumed these pills and noticed a drastic change.I was always told the herbs and vegetables and nuts contain everything that is needed to treat most diseases and etc.Its true especially when you look at the great benefits Marijuana has.Its far to therapeutic for the FDA to approve.
     
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    If you are a recreational drug user(METH,EX,COKE)yes it would be wise to take 2 pills of the say 200 mg rather than 1 right when the crash mode comes on.During these highs the brain is depleted of alot of Serotonin,which is the reason you cannot sleep,you become depressed,anxiety,panic attacks,rapid heart beat and a spoiled appetite.
     
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    Definition of Drug: "A drug is any biological substance, synthetic or non-synthetic, that is taken primarily for non-dietary needs. It is usually synthesized outside of an organism, but introduced into an organism to produce its action..."

    Well I think that covers it right there: 5HTP IS a drug. I'm going to go back to just drinking water because water is not some nasty "chemical". Look up "appeal to nature".
     
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    No , but the ones using coke lose allot of their money and their health isn't so good either. Cocain gives people many psychological problems.


    Not to mention:

    http://www.recoveryroadmap.com/DrugInfo/FA-Cocaine.html


    So go ahead and lie to others about how cocaine isn't harmful but let the truth be known that you are not very well informed.
     
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    Cocaine is very harmful,St john worts can be very harmful,Marijuana can be harmful if overconsumed,i hope people do not think just because its a natural substance it cannot harm when many can kill.
     
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    The problem with your logic is that you believe 5-HTP is a "natural cure", it isn't, even if it does cure it is not natural, nothing really is. There is no difference between an drug made synthetically by chemical engineers and a drug exceeded directly from a plant.
     
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    While that is definitely true, there could be a misunderstanding where people think that taking Vitamin C is same as eating Orange or that taking Vitamin D is same as body producing it from Sunshine. Sometimes, the herbs have additional minor compounds that act as buffer against any side effects that a pure extracted chemical can produce.

    Human being evolved from other animals eating plant life which has created a chemical dependency on the plants in the eons of development. While the body does produce necessary chemicals to sustain life, it is that food that provides the base chemicals directly or indirectly to maintain health.

    We are not at a point of drinking one glass of engineered chemicals and foregoing the grocery store, even though I have survived only on protein shakes for a few days.
     
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    The problem with your logic is you fail to realize its been studied and proven to be effective in Meth crashers,its no cure,just simply replacing what was depleted.
    If you mean cure as in never to ever come back,no! But it does treat the illnesses by relieving me of the issues that are a result from depletion of Serotonin.A depletion of Serotonin is a result when you use Crystal Meth.



     
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    Truth be known, you're rather silly quoting an organization that profits off drug addiction as a source for impartial information about drugs.

    5-HTP is great for preloading, though. It's no more "natural" than methamphetamine, but it is a useful compound.
     
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    Just watched a piece on "Sleep" in CBS 60 minutes. Very fascinating... Obesity, Diabetes etc. could be the result of sleep deprivation.
     
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    All I was asking for was a link to those studies, I don't care if you found it worked for you, I want statical studies that show its works many, and better then placebo.

    My other point is that it's an appeal to nature fallacy that just because your body makes it does not mean its good, example: your body makes Mono-Sodium Glutamate (MSG) there for MSG is good for you.
     
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    I do not think body produces MSG unless there is a fermentation process somewhere in the body. But body does produce glutamic acid that needs to come in contact with sodium hydroxide to become the MSG salt. The acid part is a good neurotransmitter. But how the salt is used - I do not know. It is like saying if you have a need for hydrochloric acid, use table salt. Something does not sound right....

    Alanine + α-ketoglutarate ⇌ pyruvate + glutamate
    Aspartate + α-ketoglutarate ⇌ oxaloacetate + glutamate
     
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    In aqueous phase MSG dissociates into glutamate and sodium ions, your body produces glutamate and your body also harbors sodium ions: if I were to drain your blood and boil it I all cations (as there are more inorganic cations like Na and K then inorganic anions like Cl, in blood) would crystallize producing organic salts, including peptide salts of which MSG would be a constituent.
     
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    It made me a little drowsy, but at the same time I felt kind of smooth and energetic :shrug: Got to sleep 1.5 hours after I should of T_T

    And things started to look better. It's like my vision was upgraded to hi-def... (and I have 20/10 vision). Drinking glasses started to look really good...

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    Bananas, and milk, and turkey/chicken are supposed to have the tryptophan amino acid which causes the effect of this herbal product.
     

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