4 Years to Save Earth!

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by madanthonywayne, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. Enmos Staff Member

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    They drove over him if I recall correctly. How will he pass on his values now ?
     
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    No they went around him...and what was he protesting about?

    Rape by the government thats what.


    The higher imperative for human evolution that transends survival and procreation is simply "self determination". The ability to determine your existence to how you want it to be.

    Mankind has been evolving this aspect of his nature since the cave....and when someone called "drivel" raped his best mates wife and was summarilly executed for his efforts.

    There is no other imperative that will provoke war, suicide and the decision to die for someone elses freedom to determine their future...

    to disregard the other imperatives of survival [ but at what cost] and reproduction.
     
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    Ok, that goes under survival.
     
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    what...to run the risk of death just to survive...hmmmm....
    How many volunteer soldiers were killed in WW1 to deny German rule the right to oppress other nations self detrmination?

    What is suicide any way but a desparate last act of self determination?

    Nay , self determination over rules all other aspects of evolutionary imperatives. [ especially and in most cases only for human evolution]
     
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    If it doesn't aid survival it rules nothing.
     
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    The Tianamen Square tragedy 1989 is a clear example of the effort to evolve self determination.
     
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    History has repeatedly shown with out doubt that people are prepared to die rather than live under sever oppression of their liberties and self determination.

    Ask any revolutionary or terrorist, or soldier , or failed suicider....obvious
     
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    "Tank man" blocks a column of tanks heading east on Beijing's Chang'an Boulevard (Avenue of Eternal Peace) near Tiananmen Square during the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. This photo was taken from the sixth floor of the Beijing Hotel, about half a mile away, through a 400mm lens
    ~wiki


    The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 culminating in the Tiananmen Square Massacre (referred to in Chinese as the June Fourth Incident, to avoid confusion with two other Tiananmen Square protests) were a series of demonstrations in and near Tiananmen Square in the People's Republic of China (PRC) between 15 April and 4 June 1989. They were mainly led by Beijing students and intellectuals. The protests occurred in a year that saw the collapse of a number of communist governments around the world.

    The protests were sparked by the death of pro-market and pro-democracy official, Hu Yaobang, whom protesters wanted to mourn. By the eve of Hu's funeral, it had reached 100,000 people on the Tiananmen square. While the protests lacked a unified cause or leadership, participants were generally against the government's authoritarianism and voiced calls for economic change [1][2] and democratic reform[2] within the structure of the government. The demonstrations centered on Tiananmen Square in Beijing, but large-scale protests also occurred in cities throughout China, including Shanghai, which stayed peaceful throughout the protests.

    The movement lasted seven weeks from Hu's death on 15 April until tanks cleared Tiananmen Square on 4 June. In Beijing, the resulting military response to the protesters by the PRC government left many civilians dead or injured. The reported tolls ranged from 200–300 (PRC government figures) and to 2,000–3,000 (Chinese student associations and Chinese Red Cross).

    Following the violence, the government conducted widespread arrests to suppress protesters and their supporters, cracked down on other protests around China, banned the foreign press from the country and strictly controlled coverage of the events in the PRC press. Members of the Party who had publicly sympathized with the protesters were purged, with several high-ranking members placed under house arrest, such as General Secretary Zhao Ziyang. The violent suppression of the Tiananmen Square protest caused widespread international condemnation of the PRC government.[2]

    ~wiki
     
  13. Enmos Staff Member

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    Yea, but.. so ?
     
  14. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    so what is rape?

    an act of procreation or one of severe oppression?
     
  15. Enmos Staff Member

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    Could be either. What does this have to do with anything ?
     
  16. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    bullshit!
     
  17. Enmos Staff Member

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    Ok then..

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  18. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    ask Swivel what it has to do with ...not me...
     
  19. Enmos Staff Member

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    You asked the question.
     
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    Of Swivel....due to his so called justification of Rape as being a procreative exercise....total and utter crap!
     
  21. Enmos Staff Member

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    I'm not Swivel.
     
  22. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    no but you have just allowed me to get my 8205th post on the board...thanks....
     
  23. Enmos Staff Member

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    Congrats.. lol
     

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