1=2

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by scifes, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    I think it's useful and interesting to point out exactly why fake proofs like the one in the OP don't work. Someone who isn't already familiar with basic logic could learn a lot about it that way.


    But in the spirit of trolling:

    Like you're probably aware, the square function defined over the reals isn't bijective and thus doesn't have an inverse.


    Actually in mathematics and most programming languages I know, the power operator binds more tightly than the negative sign, so \(-1^2 = -1\). Problem solved!
     
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  3. RJBeery Natural Philosopher Valued Senior Member

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    Well played
     
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  5. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    Yet another argument for RPN.

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  7. Cavalier Knight of the Opinion Registered Senior Member

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    Another good one (for kids):

    Assume a = b

    Then it follows that 2=1 because...

    Multiplying both sides by a, we get: a^2 = ab

    Subtracting b^2 from both sides: a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2

    Factoring, that is: (a + b)(a - b) = b (a - b)

    Simplifying, we get: (a + b) = b

    Since a = b, by assumption: (a + b) = (b + b), and so we get: (b + b) = b

    That is: 2b = b

    Dividing both sides by "b": 2 = 1
     
  8. prometheus viva voce! Registered Senior Member

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    This is a very nice example of what przyk was talking about, and it's a lot more subtle than the OP.

    I'll give you a clue as to where the logical misstep lies so as not to spoil it for anyone who wants to think it through. In this step:
    What operation is being done?
     
  9. pmb Banned Banned

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    Because there's no logical reason to say it. If sqrtr(1)= sqrt(1) then all we know is that 1 = 1.

    You must be confusing this with (-1)[sup]2[/sup] = (+1)[sup]2[/sup] and then taking the sqrt of both sides. Once you do that you'd get |-1| = |+1| ===> 1 = 1
     
  10. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    Wow .... beautiful. :bravo:

    Prometheus properly noticed.
     

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